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Dec 17, 2016 16:01:08 GMT
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Post by kris on Dec 17, 2016 16:01:08 GMT
I've just been talking to my neighbour another livaboard boater who cruises. He's just been telling me to get a liscence from Crt, they have made him produce a log of where he is going to cruise in the future. This was as well as producing a log for the last six months to prove the distance covered. To be honest his problem is that he travels too quickly and isn't logged every where he has been. So in spite of being in skipton on numerous occasions he has never been logged there. surely it isn't lawful for crt to demand a log of where he is going to go in the next 12months and what happens If he doesn't stick to his intended log.
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Dec 17, 2016 16:26:47 GMT
Post by twbm2 on Dec 17, 2016 16:26:47 GMT
I think you're right. I'd would be tempted to create a fictitious one, just so I could say 'I changed my mind, so what' if asked.
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Dec 17, 2016 16:40:50 GMT
Post by bodger on Dec 17, 2016 16:40:50 GMT
there seem to be some mixed metaphors here.
producing his own log of where he has been should be normal good practice for a CCer. Presumably CRT will then check his log with any sightings they may have made.
asking for a log of where he is going to cruise in the future is obviously badly worded. It would seem reasonable that they would ask him for a general plan of where he proposes to be (e.g. 'flitting about 10 miles each side of Banbury' or 'making a progressive journey from Oxford to Birmingham').
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Dec 17, 2016 16:59:04 GMT
Post by bargemast on Dec 17, 2016 16:59:04 GMT
No No No... as far as Im concerned its another nail in the crucifix, killing freedom and our inherent right to go where and when we please without having to tell a damn soul. Its bad enough that they blithering well follow every movement but to have to lay out in advance where you are going, is too far into a controlled state. This hasn't got much to do with living in a free country anymore, I would refuse to tell them about any futur cruising plans I have.
Peter.
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Dec 17, 2016 17:01:55 GMT
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 17, 2016 17:01:55 GMT
I wouldn't be doing the log either, sod that.
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Dec 17, 2016 17:07:59 GMT
Post by peterboat on Dec 17, 2016 17:07:59 GMT
I would be happy to produce a log of where i have been but the future hasnt been written yet so its just a guess at best
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Dec 17, 2016 17:21:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 17:21:55 GMT
I thought this was going to be a firewood topics.
But even if it isn't I will stick my oar in.
Big brother. Its been like this for a while on the cut.
"Oh the freedom must be lovely"
"Well yes if you like all your movements logged and examined in microscopic detail I suppose it is "
And ..
Relax
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Dec 17, 2016 17:29:27 GMT
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Post by kris on Dec 17, 2016 17:29:27 GMT
No No No... as far as Im concerned its another nail in the crucifix, killing freedom and our inherent right to go where and when we please without having to tell a damn soul. Its bad enough that they blithering well follow every movement but to have to lay out in advance where you are going, is too far into a controlled state. This hasn't got much to do with living in a free country anymore, I would refuse to tell them about any futur cruising plans I have.
Peter.
i tend to agree Peter, but if he had refused to produce a log for the next 12months they would have refused him a liscence. Then he would have ended up in court for not having a liscence and then maybe loose his boat. Like most of us he just wants an easy life, so has gone down the route of producing the log. It's the first time I have heard about this, I wonder if it has happened to anybody else.
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Dec 17, 2016 17:30:07 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 17:30:07 GMT
I've just been talking to my neighbour another livaboard boater who cruises. He's just been telling me to get a liscence from Crt, they have made him produce a log of where he is going to cruise in the future. This was as well as producing a log for the last six months to prove the distance covered. To be honest his problem is that he travels too quickly and isn't logged every where he has been. So in spite of being in skipton on numerous occasions he has never been logged there. surely it isn't lawful for crt to demand a log of where he is going to go in the next 12months and what happens If he doesn't stick to his intended log. It all seems a bit pervy to me. Not right at all.
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Dec 17, 2016 17:34:35 GMT
Post by bodger on Dec 17, 2016 17:34:35 GMT
presumably he is already on the radar because CRT believes he is not CCing in accordance with their perceived guidelines?
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Dec 17, 2016 17:35:08 GMT
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Post by kris on Dec 17, 2016 17:35:08 GMT
I've just been talking to my neighbour another livaboard boater who cruises. He's just been telling me to get a liscence from Crt, they have made him produce a log of where he is going to cruise in the future. This was as well as producing a log for the last six months to prove the distance covered. To be honest his problem is that he travels too quickly and isn't logged every where he has been. So in spite of being in skipton on numerous occasions he has never been logged there. surely it isn't lawful for crt to demand a log of where he is going to go in the next 12months and what happens If he doesn't stick to his intended log. It all seems a bit pervy to me. Not right at all. it does seem a bit bizarre, it makes me wonder what other bullshit they are getting away with telling isolated boaters who aren't on the Internet so able to find out the truth.
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Dec 17, 2016 17:50:53 GMT
Post by tadworth on Dec 17, 2016 17:50:53 GMT
It is illegal to demand agreement to invented pre conditions to the statutory issue of a licence. I hope he has this in writing ?
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Dec 17, 2016 17:55:05 GMT
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Post by kris on Dec 17, 2016 17:55:05 GMT
I'm going for a drink with him later so will get more info and tell him to make sure he keeps any correspondence in case of future problems.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 17:55:37 GMT
kris
"...but if he had refused to produce a log for the next 12months they would have refused him a liscence..."
Are you sure that's the right way round? I'm not trying to say you are wrong but its impossible to predict the future I can't see how CRT could refuse a license based on the future. One of my boats has been put on a 6 month license as I "don't move it enough" but there has been no mention of clairvoyants.
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Dec 17, 2016 17:58:53 GMT
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Post by kris on Dec 17, 2016 17:58:53 GMT
This is why I'm posting on here because I've never heard of this before. But yes he was told if he didn't produce a log of his intended future cruising then his boat wouldn't be liscenced.
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