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Dec 20, 2016 10:22:56 GMT
Post by Clinton Cool on Dec 20, 2016 10:22:56 GMT
The problem with your ideology and stance is that it condemned thousands of people to abject misery and death just to make you feel a little bit safer when in fact (as was pointed out to you multiple times before on CWDF) you are just as much at risk from home grown islamic terrorists. Even Trump the Chump now knows that shutting the door on all Muslims and preventing them all from entering a country was neither workable nor in reality desirable. Let's ignore the dubious assumption you make that relatively stable countries have a duty, moral or otherwise, to welcome people who are unable to live peacefully in their home countries, largely due to disputes with their compatriots over a religious technicality. So I guess Merkel can now stand up in front of the nation and say something like: Please don't worry. Regardless of the fact that I allowed a free flow of unknown people into this country, this is not a factor in this atrocity. If it hadn't been carried out by this Pakistani chap, it would doubtless have been carried out by a different Muslim chap, one who was here before I opened the gate.
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Berlin
Dec 20, 2016 10:32:19 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 10:32:19 GMT
The problem with your ideology and stance is that it condemned thousands of people to abject misery and death just to make you feel a little bit safer when in fact (as was pointed out to you multiple times before on CWDF) you are just as much at risk from home grown islamic terrorists. Even Trump the Chump now knows that shutting the door on all Muslims and preventing them all from entering a country was neither workable nor in reality desirable. Let's ignore the dubious assumption you make that relatively stable countries have a duty, moral or otherwise, to welcome people who are unable to live peacefully in their home countries, largely due to disputes with their compatriots over a religious technicality. So I guess Merkel can now stand up in front of the nation and say something like: Please don't worry. Regardless of the fact that I allowed a free flow of unknown people into this country, this is not a factor in this atrocity. If it hadn't been carried out by this Pakistani chap, it would doubtless have been carried out by a different Muslim chap, one who was here before I opened the gate. Yes I can see why from your particular stance that would be desirable.
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Berlin
Dec 20, 2016 12:06:19 GMT
Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 20, 2016 12:06:19 GMT
And apparently we still don't have our fair share of them over here yet...
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Berlin
Dec 20, 2016 14:31:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 14:31:55 GMT
Unusual for an Islamic Terrorist to deny they are involved?? I always understood they liked to bathe in the 'glory' of it all. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38379157The man detained, who has denied involvement, arrived in Germany from Pakistan at the end of last year.So he's either lying (quite possible!) or they have got the wrong fella...
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Berlin
Dec 20, 2016 16:21:35 GMT
Post by Clinton Cool on Dec 20, 2016 16:21:35 GMT
Uwe, a waiter at a local bar then?
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Berlin
Dec 20, 2016 17:49:53 GMT
Post by Delta9 on Dec 20, 2016 17:49:53 GMT
Unusual for an Islamic Terrorist to deny they are involved?? I always understood they liked to bathe in the 'glory' of it all. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38379157The man detained, who has denied involvement, arrived in Germany from Pakistan at the end of last year.So he's either lying (quite possible!) or they have got the wrong fella... The police have now made a statement saying that the attacker could still be on the run as they are not sure they have the right guy...
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Berlin
Dec 20, 2016 18:15:51 GMT
Post by paul on Dec 20, 2016 18:15:51 GMT
Its Lilliput verses Blefuscu, all of the Sh*te thats carried out in the name of religion. Which end one side cracks their eggs on. Nothing more and very much less.
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Berlin
Dec 20, 2016 18:21:36 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 18:21:36 GMT
Unusual for an Islamic Terrorist to deny they are involved?? I always understood they liked to bathe in the 'glory' of it all. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38379157The man detained, who has denied involvement, arrived in Germany from Pakistan at the end of last year.So he's either lying (quite possible!) or they have got the wrong fella... The police have now made a statement saying that the attacker could still be on the run as they are not sure they have the right guy... They have just released the initial suspect.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 20, 2016 18:29:53 GMT
The police have now made a statement saying that the attacker could still be on the run as they are not sure they have the right guy... They have just released the initial suspect. Maybe Angela Merkel told them they had the wrong person.
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Berlin
Dec 20, 2016 20:09:03 GMT
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 20, 2016 20:09:03 GMT
They have just released the initial suspect. Maybe Angela Merkel told them they had the wrong person. They relied on a member of the public who claimed to have seen him get out of the lorry and followed him while phoning the police. They can't find the gun, but I suspect there was other involvement. I hope they haven't just let the perpetrator out, though hopefully they aren't that daft.
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Berlin
Dec 20, 2016 20:24:36 GMT
Post by Clinton Cool on Dec 20, 2016 20:24:36 GMT
This might sound a bit daft but if they don't catch him, does it really matter? If he's locked up there will be hundreds, if not thousands of similarly minded folk willing to murder innocent citizens. Catching him will make zero difference to the safety of Germans.
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Berlin
Dec 20, 2016 20:36:57 GMT
Post by Delta9 on Dec 20, 2016 20:36:57 GMT
This might sound a bit daft but if they don't catch him, does it really matter? If he's locked up there will be hundreds, if not thousands of similarly minded folk willing to murder innocent citizens. Catching him will make zero difference to the safety of Germans. If there were hundreds or thousands of people wanting to murder people in this manner it would be happening on a much more regular basis. It's not hard to drive a vehicle in to a crowd.
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Berlin
Dec 20, 2016 20:38:10 GMT
Post by Delta9 on Dec 20, 2016 20:38:10 GMT
They have just released the initial suspect. Maybe Angela Merkel told them they had the wrong person. Captain Mong strikes again
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Berlin
Dec 20, 2016 20:43:45 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 20:43:45 GMT
This might sound a bit daft but if they don't catch him, does it really matter? If he's locked up there will be hundreds, if not thousands of similarly minded folk willing to murder innocent citizens. Catching him will make zero difference to the safety of Germans. It's generally considered a good idea to locate, detain, send for trial and convict known murderers so yes that does sound daft.
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Berlin
Dec 20, 2016 20:46:11 GMT
Post by Clinton Cool on Dec 20, 2016 20:46:11 GMT
This might sound a bit daft but if they don't catch him, does it really matter? If he's locked up there will be hundreds, if not thousands of similarly minded folk willing to murder innocent citizens. Catching him will make zero difference to the safety of Germans. If there were hundreds or thousands of people wanting to murder people in this manner it would be happening on a much more regular basis. It's not hard to drive a vehicle in to a crowd. Are you seriously suggesting that of the million new arrivals, less than 200 have jihadist intentions? If so, consider that Britain, a country with a smaller population and less Muslims, is currently 'keeping a good eye' on around 500 people believed to be intending to carry out terrorist acts.
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