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Post by faffer on Feb 16, 2017 19:26:32 GMT
The length is wrong, it's an Elysian 27 centre cockpit. www.elysianboats.co.uk/owners-gallery/4566046242The hulls are very high quality, God knows how the inside ended up as bad as that though! The engine is a Perkins 4107/8 and is probably a money pit! I'm not up that way for a while, I'll add it to my watch list to see if it is still available next time I go. 3k seems optimistic! Not keen now as its not big enough. It`s bizzare how folk dont know what they are selling. He does say he hast bothered with it for 12 months so the inside can get in a state I guess. from bloody squatters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 19:29:38 GMT
The length is wrong, it's an Elysian 27 centre cockpit. www.elysianboats.co.uk/owners-gallery/4566046242The hulls are very high quality, God knows how the inside ended up as bad as that though! The engine is a Perkins 4107/8 and is probably a money pit! I'm not up that way for a while, I'll add it to my watch list to see if it is still available next time I go. 3k seems optimistic! Not keen now as its not big enough. It`s bizzare how folk dont know what they are selling. He does say he hast bothered with it for 12 months so the inside can get in a state I guess. from bloody squatters. I was thinking more like it looks as though a hand grenade had been lobbed in there! The original wood work is good quality too. Still it will be 45+ years old so a lot can happen in that time.
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Post by faffer on Feb 16, 2017 19:33:43 GMT
Not keen now as its not big enough. It`s bizzare how folk dont know what they are selling. He does say he hast bothered with it for 12 months so the inside can get in a state I guess. from bloody squatters. I was thinking more like it looks as though a hand grenade had been lobbed in there! The original wood work is good quality too. Still it will be 45+ years old so a lot can happen in that time. Maybe thats what it needs. And dont i bloody know it what can happen to neglected boats lol. Still for the right price though it will be a good boat but only after spending £8k on it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 19:34:29 GMT
Cheap 32' project boats look for Senior 31 Project 32 along with RLM 32. They are usually found unloved on the coast in a yard.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 19:40:16 GMT
That centre cockpit shows why I couldn't live with that version of our boat. Although I guess that says more about how we boat than anything else!
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Post by JohnV on Feb 16, 2017 19:42:16 GMT
gazza ,,,, were they always soft top centre cockpits or did they do a hard top version ?
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Post by faffer on Feb 16, 2017 19:45:13 GMT
That centre cockpit shows why I couldn't live with that version of our boat. Although I guess that says more about how we boat than anything else! I was just thinking about that. Would a centre cockpit be better or not ? I had a Creighton 26 centre cockpit and it was ok but we didnt have it for that long to really decide. Maybe a 35 + centre cockpit.
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Post by faffer on Feb 16, 2017 19:48:04 GMT
Cheap 32' project boats look for Senior 31 Project 32 along with RLM 32. They are usually found unloved on the coast in a yard. I cant wait to look for my next boat, I/we will spend a week or so cruising all the boat yards searching out a nice unloved boat Just loved window shopping in real boat yards never mind looking to purchase.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 19:54:06 GMT
I like the open space of an aft cockpit, we can have 6 or more onboard at times, it would be way too cramped on a centre cockpit boat if everyone wanted to be out of the cabin. Moored up its nice to sit out the back for dinner and watch the world go by and the sunset with a bit of space. We loose out having to make the dinnete bed up every night for the dwarf, but it's really the only minus for me. Once you are in the 32'+ range space is less of an issue, the senior 31 uses the aft cabin as a sunshine deck. I quite like that setup, sort of best of both worlds. The only boat i'd consider over ours is a Project 32 on twin shafts, luckily there's not many about so I don't get tempted
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 19:59:11 GMT
gazza ,,,, were they always soft top centre cockpits or did they do a hard top version ? The 27 were all soft tops, the sliding roof 34 www.jonesboatyard.co.uk/boat-6339.html was too little too late, and had only limited success - a few are still in hire on Bridge Boatyards fleet though.
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Post by faffer on Mar 1, 2017 20:23:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 20:36:08 GMT
It's a lot of boat, they were not popular as (despite the eBay and) they were not wide enough to be attractive to the Broads market, 11' plus was the way forward. Harry Lincoln wouldn't build a boat wider than 10' 2" as it wouldn't fit through Offord lock on his river. Hugh Easton his designer who had been with him since his apprentice days strongly disagreed and said it would be the death knell for the company if they didn't look further than the Great Ouse! They parted company, Hugh going on to Senior Marine, A&L shut up shop in the early 70's. The 34 has served Bridge Boatyard in Ely well But is a rare sight elsewhere.
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Post by faffer on Mar 1, 2017 20:40:56 GMT
I just love your knowledge of boaty stuff kida
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 20:51:17 GMT
I was lucky enough to meet Hugh at an A&L reunion, we had email correspondence for a fair while, some interesting tales he had to tell! I've got some lovely pictures of man sized sterngear he sent me for inspiration when redesigning ours. Was saddened to hear from erivers that Hugh passed away last year. He had an interesting book in him - sadly his memoirs never made it to print.
Harry Lincoln was also an interesting old boy, I'll try to dig some GOBA stuff out on him later.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 1, 2017 23:08:32 GMT
It's a lot of boat, they were not popular as (despite the eBay and) they were not wide enough to be attractive to the Broads market, 11' plus was the way forward. Harry Lincoln wouldn't build a boat wider than 10' 2" as it wouldn't fit through Offord lock on his river. Hugh Easton his designer who had been with him since his apprentice days strongly disagreed and said it would be the death knell for the company if they didn't look further than the Great Ouse! They parted company, Hugh going on to Senior Marine, A&L shut up shop in the early 70's. The 34 has served Bridge Boatyard in Ely well But is a rare sight elsewhere. Noticed them several times when I was on the Ouse ......... thought they looked pretty good for hire boats ........ it was just the people steering (?) them scared the pants off me !!! Don't know what engine was in them but they seemed to have a respectable performance for hire craft
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