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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 29, 2016 19:06:54 GMT
As per the title really, is there such a thing as a God, does anybody believe in a God, if so what is your perception of this God and how does it relate to your everyday life, and has anybody actually seen one?
Personally I think no. I didn't exist for billions of years, I exist right now i.e. 29th April 2016 and in twenty years or so I won't exist any more and will never exist again. I won't go to heaven, or have an afterlife. I have no more significance than anything else which lives and then dies, e.g. a worm or a tree.
But as discussing religion has been banned by the uberfuehrer of the other place, I thought I would start a discussion here.
Say your thing!
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Post by loafer on Apr 29, 2016 19:21:01 GMT
I think religion is just something that we've always taught our kids, so that there is some huge polarising reference and pointers to behaviour. Much like Santa Claus.
Is there a God? Try this:
'Did you hear about the insomniac agnostic dyslexic guy? He lay awake all night wondering if there was a Dog!'
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Post by loafer on Apr 29, 2016 19:22:11 GMT
In fact, I'm wondering how it is that adults no longer believe in Santa Claus but continue to believe in God!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 19:54:15 GMT
In fact, I'm wondering how it is that adults no longer believe in Santa Claus but continue to believe in God! I am not to sure about a god as in a divine creator and I certainly don't subscribe to religion but I try and do right by others and treat the way I would expect to be treated. You can see an example of this just a minute ago in the NBTA thread where I gently admonish Jenlyn for his childish behaviour but then suggest a cure for his ills thus the old chap is rebuked though not alienated and in time he will be grateful for my putting him on the right path.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 20:00:55 GMT
In fact, I'm wondering how it is that adults no longer believe in Santa Claus but continue to believe in God! I am not to sure about a god as in a divine creator and I certainly don't subscribe to religion but I try and do right by others and treat the way I would expect to be treated. You can see an example of this just a minute ago in the NBTA thread where I gently admonish Jenlyn for his childish behaviour but then suggest a cure for his ills thus the old chap is rebuked though not alienated and in time he will be grateful for my putting him on the right path. This would have been a more stylish way of doing it.... Well there's this passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you." I been sayin' that shit for years. And if you ever heard it, it meant your ass. I never gave much thought what it meant. I just thought it was some cold-blooded shit to say to a motherfucker before I popped a cap in his ass. I saw some shit this mornin' made me think twice. See now I'm thinkin', maybe it means you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. 9 Milimeter here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could mean you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. Now I'd like that. But that shit ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be a shepherd.
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Post by boatman on Apr 29, 2016 20:02:34 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 20:05:21 GMT
That came to mind too, didn't fit well with Jule's speech though!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 20:15:58 GMT
Yes I believe there is a God. I believe in Creationism and also in Intelligent Design and that the two theories can co exist. I researched various web sites in order to explain properly here since the subject is so emotive its difficult to write about it without sounding pious or pie in the sky... Creationism is described as "All life was created by the actions of God" Some Creationists say God did this in a single creative event, but others don't limit creation to one event. The most common theory follows the accounts in the bible and the first chapter Genesis, but most religions have their own creation story. Christians who take the Bible literally believe the world was created by God in seven days. In recent years, some Christians have put forward the idea of an 'intelligent designer' as an alternative to the science of evolution. Intelligent Design is more about "The current state of life on Earth has come about through the actions of an intelligent Designer" For instance, some living things contain certain types of complexity that are best explained as the result of an intelligent cause and that aspects of the universe also show positive evidence of having been designed by some form of intelligence. The lord said let there be light, and there was light, and you could see for fucking miles I don't want to poke fun at you but...... How anyone can believe in an omnipotent being in this day and age is beyond me, as a method of keeping the great unwashed in check religion was without peer, those days are long gone thankfully. Have a listen to Mr Fry on that YouTube clip above, he makes some very salient points.....
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Post by loafer on Apr 29, 2016 20:20:32 GMT
Yes I believe there is a God. I believe in Creationism and also in Intelligent Design and that the two theories can co exist. I researched various web sites in order to explain properly here since the subject is so emotive its difficult to write about it without sounding pious or pie in the sky... Creationism is described as "All life was created by the actions of God" Some Creationists say God did this in a single creative event, but others don't limit creation to one event. The most common theory follows the accounts in the bible and the first chapter Genesis, but most religions have their own creation story. Christians who take the Bible literally believe the world was created by God in seven days. In recent years, some Christians have put forward the idea of an 'intelligent designer' as an alternative to the science of evolution. Intelligent Design is more about "The current state of life on Earth has come about through the actions of an intelligent Designer" For instance, some living things contain certain types of complexity that are best explained as the result of an intelligent cause and that aspects of the universe also show positive evidence of having been designed by some form of intelligence. Just the one? Which one is it?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 20:49:58 GMT
Yes I believe there is a God. I believe in Creationism and also in Intelligent Design and that the two theories can co exist. I researched various web sites in order to explain properly here since the subject is so emotive its difficult to write about it without sounding pious or pie in the sky... Creationism is described as "All life was created by the actions of God" Some Creationists say God did this in a single creative event, but others don't limit creation to one event. The most common theory follows the accounts in the bible and the first chapter Genesis, but most religions have their own creation story. Christians who take the Bible literally believe the world was created by God in seven days. In recent years, some Christians have put forward the idea of an 'intelligent designer' as an alternative to the science of evolution. Intelligent Design is more about "The current state of life on Earth has come about through the actions of an intelligent Designer" For instance, some living things contain certain types of complexity that are best explained as the result of an intelligent cause and that aspects of the universe also show positive evidence of having been designed by some form of intelligence. The lord said let there be light, and there was light, and you could see for fucking miles I don't want to poke fun at you but...... How anyone can believe in an omnipotent being in this day and age is beyond me, as a method of keeping the great unwashed in check religion was without peer, those days are long gone thankfully. Have a listen to Mr Fry on that YouTube clip above, he makes some very salient points..... I've watched that video a couple of times before. I quite like Fry but sorry, I think he comes over as bitter and twisted in that. I know, it's not a very Christian thing to say, but it's just my view. Maybe his chosen belief system fits his lifestyle better. He was a bit of a naughty boy when he was younger apparently.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 29, 2016 20:52:36 GMT
I believe there is only one God. But surely people around the world say the exact same thing? If there is only one God then they can't all be right?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2016 21:05:01 GMT
I believe there is only one God. But surely people around the world say the exact same thing? If there is only one God then they can't all be right? There's only one good and one bad though. I like think there is a bit of good and bad in everything and everyone. That probably applies to any belief system too. I still reckon there is a creative force and one we can communucate with if we choose to. That's about as complicated as I can get with it...and no..I can't prove it to anyone...
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Post by Bad-Bitch on Apr 29, 2016 21:19:41 GMT
i don't believe in god, i think it was a story book written for children because people back in that time didn't live long and wanted something to look forward to in the "after life", also if there is a god how comes he can die and rise again at different times when we move easter from march to april and back again.
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Post by smileypete on Apr 29, 2016 21:39:52 GMT
"Everyone believes what they want to believe..."
Seems to me there may be something out there, but a proper understanding of it may be many years off, if ever.
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Post by Delta9 on Apr 29, 2016 21:47:36 GMT
The universe is a sentient being and we are just a part of it.
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