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Post by kris on Feb 26, 2017 19:37:47 GMT
I'm sure some of the iwa would volunteer to shoot cc'ers in London. Crap idea...their eye sight is not so good.. They'd get the crack provisional iwa on the job.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 19:39:16 GMT
Its a tricky one because on the one hand encouraging people to move about on bicycles in a city makes sense but the side effect is that they will obviously use the towpaths as they (the cyclists) have the safety advantage which they would not have on roads.
I have come to the conclusion that bicycles are basically just annoying. I was out on my bmx which I have put an electric motor on earlier today. I was following a dickhead on a pedal bike at 15mph along the Thames path. Pedestrians ahead - he steamed through them without slowing at all. I slowed down to walking speed and got a nasty scowl from one of the walkers. I'm sure it was meant for the dickhead in front.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 19:43:50 GMT
Crap idea...their eye sight is not so good.. They'd get the crack provisional iwa on the job. There are certainly some very entrenched views.
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Post by kris on Feb 26, 2017 19:52:03 GMT
Its a tricky one because on the one hand encouraging people to move about on bicycles in a city makes sense but the side effect is that they will obviously use the towpaths as they (the cyclists) have the safety advantage which they would not have on roads. If cycling is so good for cities, then take space away from motor vehicles, not pedestrians and give it over to cycling only. This would cut down the air pollution, much more than any control on emissions from boats. I've been an avid cyclist for many years I used to cycle the towpaths in London over 20 years ago( not many people on them them.) I have done thousands of miles cycle touring, but I find myself cringing at this new breed of cyclist. The I went to the shop and bought the lot Lycra brigade, that don't give a fuck about anybody else. The large groups of speeding cyclists on the towpaths are a recent thing. I still cycle the towpaths( it's my only means of transport other than boat.) but I do so at just over walking speed and give way to pedestrians and thank them when they move out of my way, they always seem pleasantly surprised. Crt needs to get its head out of its arse, except responsibility and do something about the problem. They are encouraging more and more people to use the towpaths they have some responsibility, no matter how much they try and wriggle out of it.
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Post by bargemast on Feb 26, 2017 19:55:55 GMT
Checking the bicycles licences wouldn't be easy, and probably be a very costly excercise too. Boats have to go through locks every now and again, which would give control officers time to check their licences, and even when they're tied up somewhere checking their licences is an easy task, but how do you do that with bicycles ? If they need to spend thousends on checking officers, while it will only give them a much smaller amount than the checking costs will be, doesn't make it worth all the hassle. Maybe the could pay a few complete nutcases with machineguns at strategic places to shoot the crazy towpath racers down, that will teach them and be a warning for the rest of the mad ones to slow down, and respect other towpath users too. Peter. I don't think it is within CRT's legal framework to employ people who use firearms to further objectives. Perhaps if they were voluntary workers this idea may have legs. How silly of me to suggest something like this, I sometimes forget that the UK isn't Donald Trumps territory, where everybody should carry a gun.
Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 20:01:20 GMT
Crap idea...their eye sight is not so good.. They'd get the crack provisional iwa on the job. Google "provisional iwa" (with the quotes) it is entertaining and very inoformative!
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Post by tadworth on Feb 26, 2017 20:02:41 GMT
How would they legally enforce it if there is no bylaw against riding a bike on the towpath ?
It would just add to the list of already illegal charges.
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Post by kris on Feb 26, 2017 20:06:07 GMT
I don't know how to post a link from Facebook but there is a very interesting post from Debbie Owens on 15th feb on London boaters where she asks the London boaters rep sower Ahmed about liability. The official reply is very entertaining.
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Post by JohnV on Feb 26, 2017 20:46:18 GMT
Occasionally this forum produces the most gloriously insane threads !!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 21:16:20 GMT
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Post by kris on Feb 26, 2017 21:18:08 GMT
Thanks very much for that jenlyn, I think the official reply is very telling.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 7:21:51 GMT
Its a tricky one because on the one hand encouraging people to move about on bicycles in a city makes sense but the side effect is that they will obviously use the towpaths as they (the cyclists) have the safety advantage which they would not have on roads. If cycling is so good for cities, then take space away from motor vehicles, not pedestrians and give it over to cycling only. This would cut down the air pollution, much more than any control on emissions from boats. I've been an avid cyclist for many years I used to cycle the towpaths in London over 20 years ago( not many people on them them.) I have done thousands of miles cycle touring, but I find myself cringing at this new breed of cyclist. The I went to the shop and bought the lot Lycra brigade, that don't give a fuck about anybody else. The large groups of speeding cyclists on the towpaths are a recent thing. I still cycle the towpaths( it's my only means of transport other than boat.) but I do so at just over walking speed and give way to pedestrians and thank them when they move out of my way, they always seem pleasantly surprised. Crt needs to get its head out of its arse, except responsibility and do something about the problem. They are encouraging more and more people to use the towpaths they have some responsibility, no matter how much they try and wriggle out of it. Totally agree with you. There are quite a few proper segregated cycle lanes where they have used what was previously a road. Sensible in a way if there is the volume of traffic demand. Towpaths need sorting out really but I don't think its going to happen. Accidents or no accidents there is no way that the idiot cyclists will disappear. Sadly.
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Post by tadworth on Feb 27, 2017 12:11:51 GMT
Looks like I was wrong, there is a bylaw prohibiting this,
Improper use of towing paths:
31. (1) No person, unless authorised by the Board or otherwise legally entitled so to do shall:
(a) Ride or drive any animal or vehicle over any towing path
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Post by thebfg on Feb 27, 2017 12:13:36 GMT
Looks like I was wrong, there is a bylaw prohibiting this, Improper use of towing paths: 31. (1) No person, unless authorised by the Board or otherwise legally entitled so to do shall: (a) Ride or drive any animal or vehicle over any towing path Depends what they define as vehicle.
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Post by tadworth on Feb 27, 2017 12:42:59 GMT
Looks like I was wrong, there is a bylaw prohibiting this, Improper use of towing paths: 31. (1) No person, unless authorised by the Board or otherwise legally entitled so to do shall: (a) Ride or drive any animal or vehicle over any towing path Depends what they define as vehicle. Legally speaking a bicycle is a vehicle.
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