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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 18:29:17 GMT
My missus listens to audio books when she goes running, and says that Dickens books are great to listen to. I think it's just reading them that's the problem. Maybe I should by audio books instead. Rog Thats interesting. I never thought of listening to books like that. I never wear earphones as I like to listen to my surroundings even if its just traffic but maybe walking around with a hooded top playing charles dickens on the phone speaker would be worth doing. Specially on buses.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 18:33:57 GMT
I'm with you. I prefer listening to the world whilst I run. But I hate tv, so maybe I should buy some Dickens and Poe audio books for the evening. Large malt and an audio book. Sounds great! But I'll be in't pub tomorrow for Wales v Ireland. Literature is terrific but rugby and beer is serious Rog
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 18:44:05 GMT
Unfortunately I had early rugby trauma at the age of 11 when I briefly went to a knobend prep school where the pe teacher forced all the boys including me (non-sporty bean pole) to run around a rugby pitch in below freezing temperatures banging our hands on trees. The school has since been closed and a couple of the staff were jailed for offences against children. Luckily I was only there for a year. That was enough !! Anyway I expect rugby is cool and I hope you enjoy it
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Post by NigelMoore on Mar 15, 2017 12:07:28 GMT
The ruling doesn't decide the matter of whether the boater must move to a prescribed pattern or can stay put. It simply refers the case back the County Court for the matter to be reconsidered taking into account the boater's human rights which the CC judge had previously ruled were not applicable in this case. I don’t think it is strictly correct to say that the judge ruled that HRA considerations were inapplicable in the case; more that the County Courts should assume that the HRA considerations would have been analysed by CaRT before taking the decision to action s.8, and that the rationale for their decision should be accepted without judges having to probe into those reasons. The issue of proportionality is the key in these HRA defences, yet seems to be used in unwieldy, oblique and ineffective ways. The simplest and most direct application of the principles, to whether or not an authority is exercising a proportionate remedy, is to ask what lesser interference with Convention rights could achieve the mandated objectives. The answer presented by CaRT, as with BW before them, is always that no practical alternative remedy [to using s.8] is available to them; that the specific statutory remedies are ineffective. I have now, though, finally received most of the information I was seeking from the EA, as to their utilisation of equivalent powers respecting registration of boats on their rivers. In contradiction to all the [accepted] arguments before the County Courts by BW/CaRT – that s.8 removals are the only practical avenue for enforcement of licence & registration defaults, because prosecutions for the offences resulted in only “derisory” fines – the EA since their 2012 Order have successfully prosecuted hundreds of boats for failure to register, and have exercised their s.8 equivalent less than a dozen times in the same period. www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/statistics_for_successful_boat_r#incoming-945420 www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/section_8_boat_removals_since_ju#comment-76655 If the next largest navigation authority in the country can effectively use similar legislation to CaRT’s, in pursuit of the same objectives, with Magistrates Court actions so far outweighing boat removals, then CaRT’s arguments for s.8 removal being their ONLY effective recourse, begin to look like the foolishness they are. If they have gratuitously chosen to pursue the remedy most abusive of the HRA, where more effective and less interfering remedies are available, then the test of proportionality is comprehensively lost. The Appeal Court judgment should mean that if defending boaters wake up to the real HRA issues, instead of bewailing lack of alternative housing solutions, then useful CCJ’s will result, because the CC judges will now have to consider the broader picture of why CaRT choose to act as they do. Not that I am holding my breath.
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Post by lollygagger on Mar 15, 2017 13:19:21 GMT
The obvious conclusion is that CRT's actual objectives differ from CRT's stated objectives.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 13:26:33 GMT
The obvious conclusion is that CRT's actual objectives differ from CRT's stated objectives. If truth be known, there are two people at CRT whose objectives are simply vindictive. It's time for them both to be sacked.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 15, 2017 14:14:49 GMT
The obvious conclusion is that CRT's actual objectives differ from CRT's stated objectives. If truth be known, there are two people at CRT whose objectives are simply vindictive. It's time for them both to be sacked. I'd put the figure at a few more than that. Parry, with overall responsibility, would obviously have to be the first to go, rapidly joined by the three very unwise monkeys, Head of Boating, Symonds, Head of Boat Thieving, Dense Yelland, her equally malevolent and moronic side-kick, Paul Griffin, Turf out the bunch of pointless and unpleasant goons that make up the 'in house legal team', and the Trust would be immediately transformed into something that could become, and function as, what it was primarily created to be, . . . a navigation authority.
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Post by tadworth on Mar 15, 2017 14:29:32 GMT
The obvious conclusion is that CRT's actual objectives differ from CRT's stated objectives. If truth be known, there are two people at CRT whose objectives are simply vindictive. It's time for them both to be sacked. No ones going to be sacked, wishfull thinking Steve. The whole management of CRT is bent, the enforcement supervisors have contempt for the law, the legal dept. are liars, and the CEO just blindly backs up his staff without question, the in house complaints system is 100% biased, and the ombudsman isn't independent.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 15, 2017 15:33:47 GMT
For the first time in my life I'm considering joining a march to Downing Street on the 8th April. Well, the exercise might do you good, but what are you going to do when you get there? The street is closed with gates, and Policemen guarding it to keep the tax-paying riff-raff away from the Prime Liar and her mates. They need protecting, you see.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 15, 2017 15:46:26 GMT
Unfortunately I had early rugby trauma at the age of 11 when I briefly went to a knobend prep school where the pe teacher forced all the boys including me (non-sporty bean pole) to run around a rugby pitch in below freezing temperatures banging our hands on trees. The school has since been closed and a couple of the staff were jailed for offences against children. Luckily I was only there for a year. That was enough !! My favourite sport at school when I was a young teenager was cross-country running. Me and my mate Stewart used to run away from the school, like we were doing 'the route', but went to my house to watch something on TV for an hour and a half! Before trotting back to school for din-dins. Sports teachers are sadistic perverts and I spit on all of them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 16:10:15 GMT
I had another sport teacher who was a new zealand rugby man on temporary teacher swap. I was 13. He decided it was clever to get all the boys to walk over each others' stomachs. "Just tense your stomach muscles!" Anyway fuck that hurt and after I told my mum about it the bloke was obviously told off as he let me off all the PE I was just a spectator after that and so did the original teacher when he came back from NZ.
I was well pleased. PE and sports at school should be optional. Some people don't like it. That is their right surely???
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 16:33:36 GMT
Foxy, have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe
it's you that's out of step?
I loved PE and sports of all kinds at school.
I'm 60 now, and still run and exercise, thanks to teachers who set me off on the right track.
The huge steaming bath after a rugby match was bliss!
Don't think they're allowed now, you have to be in individual cubicles for privacy. Weird innit? I think we all have the same kit.
Rog
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 15, 2017 16:36:37 GMT
Sorry. I think 'Sport' is for cretins. It's another con. Just another way to make oodles of money. But I have nothing against people who want to go jogging or cross-country running or cycling on their own, in fact I think that's good. Organised 'Sport' = Mafia.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 16:53:48 GMT
What about axe throwing he he
Rog
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 15, 2017 17:12:52 GMT
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