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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 14, 2017 17:22:06 GMT
Looking for a benchmark figure for the value of a 45' trad stern boat dating from the early 1980s, not been used or blacked for 10 years, very poor condition cosmetically, numerous rust patches to superstructure, Isuzu engine (not known if working), interior badly damp-damaged, still afloat and could be towed, any idea how much such a thing might be worth as scrap?
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Post by kris on Mar 14, 2017 17:27:02 GMT
How ever much your willing to pay for it.
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Post by Jim on Mar 14, 2017 17:27:20 GMT
What is the displacement? Multiply the draught by length in metres less a bit for the swim and pointy bow, to get an approx weight in tonnes (cu m of h2o). What's scrap steel per tonne.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 14, 2017 17:42:06 GMT
What is the displacement? Multiply the draught by length in metres less a bit for the swim and pointy bow, to get an approx weight in tonnes (cu m of h2o). What's scrap steel per tonne. I'd guess it weighed around 8-10 tonnes but was wondering if it would be worth more/less than the straight per tonne steel price (which is currently around £100 per tonne), either more because it had components which might add value, or less because it would need to be towed away and stripped out, which might lower the value? I may make an offer for it but it would be useful to know how much the owners might be offered for it.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 14, 2017 17:42:54 GMT
about 4 or 5 pence per kilo, (chopping it up into skip sized bits will cost a bit so value to you less than that)
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Post by JohnV on Mar 14, 2017 17:55:27 GMT
Must have cross posted with you ...Don't underestimate the amount of work, it's hard work chopping up a boat without the use of a crane etc for moving big bits round Scrapyards will often supply a big skip if you have plenty of heavy steel to sell them. Don't underestimate the cost of doing it, even a paddy's motorbike needs fuel and blades and you also have a lot of non recyclable junk to get rid of as well !!!
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 14, 2017 18:05:05 GMT
I'm more thinking of putting it permanently on hardstanding, renovating the paintwork and the interior and using it as a sort of static caravan, I'm really just curious as to how much its scrap value would be so I could make a comparable offer. I assume old boats must get scrapped fairly regularly and someone might have an idea of what it would fetch as scrap? The owners are fairly attached to it although both are too elderly now to use it (which is why it hasn't moved for 10 years) and if I intended to keep it intact and restore it cosmetically, then I think they would much prefer that to the gas axe.
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Post by kris on Mar 14, 2017 18:15:26 GMT
Is it still afloat?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 14, 2017 18:22:04 GMT
Yes, it's afloat (in fact, about an hour ago I helped to bow haul it along our mooring) although I imagine that after 10 years without being out of the water for blacking that the hull is probably in need of overplating. But I could get it craned out for £100 and placed on hard standing for £300 a year so I'm toying with the idea of doing that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 18:24:35 GMT
5 grand if its afloat and has a useable internal fitout. You mention steel cabin which makes it more viable for residential use. Scrap value would be much much less than boat value I suspect.
Bring it up to London throw paint at it get the engine going and sort the inside with a decent stove it'll get 15-20 grand know what I mean chap <giggle>
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 18:26:16 GMT
Yes, it's afloat (in fact, about an hour ago I helped to bow haul it along our mooring) although I imagine that after 10 years without being out of the water for blacking that the hull is probably in need of overplating. But I could get it craned out for £100 and placed on hard standing for £300 a year so I'm toying with the idea of doing that. 10 years in the water isn't that serious really if it was a quality boat imo. Do you know who built it?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 14, 2017 18:33:22 GMT
Yes, it's afloat (in fact, about an hour ago I helped to bow haul it along our mooring) although I imagine that after 10 years without being out of the water for blacking that the hull is probably in need of overplating. But I could get it craned out for £100 and placed on hard standing for £300 a year so I'm toying with the idea of doing that. 10 years in the water isn't that serious really if it was a quality boat imo. Do you know who built it? No, the boat listing says "Built by Unknown". I've just checked the registration number and it would appear to have been registered in 1990, so a little later than I thought.
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Post by kris on Mar 14, 2017 18:35:02 GMT
Yes, it's afloat (in fact, about an hour ago I helped to bow haul it along our mooring) although I imagine that after 10 years without being out of the water for blacking that the hull is probably in need of overplating. But I could get it craned out for £100 and placed on hard standing for £300 a year so I'm toying with the idea of doing that. as has been said 10 years isn't that bad. I'd think it's got more than scrap value. So it's worth some where between what they want for it and what you want to pay for it.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 14, 2017 19:01:30 GMT
Bring it up to London throw paint at it get the engine going and sort the inside with a decent stove it'll get 15-20 grand know what I mean chap <giggle> That possibility has occurred to me too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 19:14:16 GMT
£100 per tonne for mild? Who's your scrap man? He must have a different abacus to the ones round here, nowhere near that figure - last lot of mild went in at £15/tonne back end of last year.
Teabag narrow boats are not my thing, I saved an unloved Hancock and Lane from slowly returning to nature - never ever again! It's got to be something worthwhile like Kris or Johns boat to spend too much time, money and agro on. An old leisure sewer tube is a hiding to nothing in my opinion.
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