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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 12:48:05 GMT
In a few months time I'll be properly searching for a boat, at the moment I have no idea of budget as the house auction will dictate that so the post should be treated as a 'dreams and best guess' type of question. A bit of background, I nearly bought a NB about 4 years ago, sadly the survey picked up some very serious problems with the hull which meant the boat wasn't for me (we are talking about a boat less than 10 years old that potentially needed overplating in the near future - I will not be buying a boat without at least a hull survey...). Whilst my intention was to buy a fairly 'bog standard' reasonably modern boat (although it might be a bathtub depending on funds) Magnetman posted about this boat www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192237629244?clk_rvr_id=1253038380693&rmvSB=trueI could be tempted by such boats in the future but have a few questions about cost of improvements (I can learn some stuff but would need to employ someone to do stuff that I wasn't ok with doing myself). Questions: 1; How risky do you think it would be for a novice (even with advice) buying a boat with a new engine and gearbox? 2; How easy it would it be for someone to upgrade the electrics on a boat like the one mentioned, would a complete refit be required if I wanted more sockets etc. ? Some idea of the financial risk I might be taking would be helpful.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 12:57:04 GMT
I don't know how much it all costs as I have done all the required works on my boats over the years - the only time I ever pay for someone to come on my boat is the BSS man.
If you need things like rewiring I expect it could get rather expensive.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 13:04:10 GMT
If you need things like rewiring I expect it could get rather expensive. Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't expect it to be cheap. With a house I can google and get a very rough idea of cost, with a boat I have no idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 13:15:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 13:22:28 GMT
Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't expect it to be cheap. With a house I can google and get a very rough idea of cost, with a boat I have no idea. You can keep costs down by doing the work yourself, ... I can do things like servicing an engine that way but my health means it would be unwise for me to take on a significant wiring job hence the need to employ some help.
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Post by JohnV on Jul 9, 2017 13:23:53 GMT
you certainly don't want the average house electrician for the job !!!
Altering electrics in a boat that is fitted out can be a can of worms (depending on how many and where sockets are to go) you have no way of finding out if space has been left to run cables logically and sensibly. I doubt any one could even give you a rule of thumb price, per socket, without examining the boat.
If it hasn't been factored in from original build, it can often be a real nightmare
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Post by patty on Jul 9, 2017 13:31:19 GMT
Having gone through the whole procedure from build to fit out etc ensuring I knew how everything went together I think to alter electrics post boat purchase could prove bit of a nightmare..I'd try and find a boat thats as near as perfect for your life and live on her for a while to see if you really do need the changes.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 13:38:14 GMT
I could easily live on that boat for a year or so, but my thoughts are as much about the long term rather than now.
Any comments about Q1 - seems risky to me.
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Post by lollygagger on Jul 9, 2017 13:44:17 GMT
I like the boat, but...
All the cold air pouring off those windows in winter might be a problem, I note they've replaced the insulation in the ceiling - probably because it's cold inside? The traditional mix of portholes at the sleeping end and big windows plus stove at the other end works well.
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Post by JohnV on Jul 9, 2017 13:46:56 GMT
as regards question one .... I would think a lot less risky than buying something with an elderly and possibly badly treated old clunker as an engine
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 13:56:46 GMT
Yes but why was the engine replaced? Its not a particularly old boat.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 9, 2017 14:03:27 GMT
New engine and gearbox isn't a problem, if anything it's a bonus. My gut feeling though is that it wasn't built to be a liveaboard boat and is fundamentally unsuited to be a liveboard boat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 14:17:43 GMT
I think you are right. So Q3. If you had 20k to spend on updating it (bearing in mind this would be spent over a number of years and the major work would need to be carried out by tradesmen), would you be interested? Ignore hull condition.
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Post by JohnV on Jul 9, 2017 14:24:02 GMT
It's pretty .... but no..... not as a liveaboard
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 9, 2017 14:25:56 GMT
I think you are right. So Q3. If you had 20k to spend on updating it (bearing in mind this would be spent over a number of years and the major work would need to be carried out by tradesmen), would you be interested? Ignore hull condition. Personally, I'd be looking for something more conventionally suited to living aboard. Nothing will alter the fact that it has too many windows for example. Must just say that this doesn't look like a new engine installed this year...
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