|
Post by zigspider on May 19, 2016 1:36:20 GMT
Seriously, if we're meant to be taken as a contender, there should be far more waterways threads on site. Stoppages, what's going on, boat buying advice etc.. Many on the other side are showing less and less interest, we need to encourage them to come here.
|
|
|
Post by peterboat on May 19, 2016 8:33:33 GMT
You are right try it and see what happens
|
|
|
Post by naughtyfox on May 19, 2016 9:44:10 GMT
There's not a lot I can contribute at the moment, apart from a small article this coming weekend, we're rushing round getting ready for this Summer's boating. Then we'll be on the spot and can report it as it is. Probably can't provide photos until August, though, when I get back to my home computer. Our fate depends largely on the Calder & Hebble opening. We have all kinds of plans and ideas but just have to play it by ear. Supposed to be blacking our underside third weekend of July, so have to order paint for that, and new anodes I guess. I have a feeling it's going to be a stressful weekend, but we can visit the dry dock in June to see what there is there, so we're mentally prepared. Where to sleep then... we have a tent on the boat so probably in that. And the nearby pub for meals.
|
|
|
Post by peterboat on May 19, 2016 12:01:38 GMT
There's not a lot I can contribute at the moment, apart from a small article this coming weekend, we're rushing round getting ready for this Summer's boating. Then we'll be on the spot and can report it as it is. Probably can't provide photos until August, though, when I get back to my home computer. Our fate depends largely on the Calder & Hebble opening. We have all kinds of plans and ideas but just have to play it by ear. Supposed to be blacking our underside third weekend of July, so have to order paint for that, and new anodes I guess. I have a feeling it's going to be a stressful weekend, but we can visit the dry dock in June to see what there is there, so we're mentally prepared. Where to sleep then... we have a tent on the boat so probably in that. And the nearby pub for meals. I have always slept on the boat whilst blacking it ask the boatyard it should be the same Foxy
|
|
|
Post by naughtyfox on May 19, 2016 13:30:42 GMT
Some dry docks say 'No Sleeping on the Boat' whilst in there. Will ask, of course. I do understand they don't want to have a boat on fire in their shed, which is a risk if people are on board - you know, cooking chips in the deep fat fryer and smoking cigars in bed.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 13:38:18 GMT
Some dry docks say 'No Sleeping on the Boat' whilst in there. Will ask, of course. I do understand they don't want to have a boat on fire in their shed, which is a risk if people are on board - you know, cooking chips in the deep fat fryer and smoking cigars in bed. The problem as I understand it, centres around a case where a boatyard was sued by an old bloke who fell off a ladder while exiting his boat and promptly sued the boatyard.The insurance apparently won't cover people living on what technically is a worksite.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 13:41:23 GMT
Seriously, if we're meant to be taken as a contender, there should be far more waterways threads on site. Stoppages, what's going on, boat buying advice etc.. Many on the other side are showing less and less interest, we need to encourage them to come here. I was surprised to see Alan Fincher say on the other channel that both him and his wife were not visiting CWDF as often these days either,
|
|
|
Post by metanoia on May 19, 2016 18:25:43 GMT
Good evening all
Just signed up to help fuel zigspider's idea and to agree with peterboat in saying to Foxy that it shouldn't be a problem - just limit those cigars and chips and you'll be fine.
My dog fell down the steps when we were on a slip a few years back - thankfully no serious harm and I didn't try to blame anyone but myself. Lots of signs everywhere saying you stay on board at your own risk/peril - and this year that end of the boatyard was signed "staff only" to cover them/their insurers.
Good luck, Foxy
|
|
|
Post by smileypete on May 20, 2016 21:06:43 GMT
Good evening all Just signed up to help fuel zigspider's idea and to agree with peterboat in saying to Foxy that it shouldn't be a problem - just limit those cigars and chips and you'll be fine. My dog fell down the steps when we were on a slip a few years back - thankfully no serious harm and I didn't try to blame anyone but myself. Lots of signs everywhere saying you stay on board at your own risk/peril - and this year that end of the boatyard was signed "staff only" to cover them/their insurers. Good luck, Foxy Welcome metanoia!
|
|
|
Post by phil70 on May 21, 2016 0:18:26 GMT
Yay!! Metal lady is here, it seems that all my favourite people are now signed up, and now I have broken the back of painting my boat perhaps I can find more time to post. Phil
|
|
|
Post by Higgs on May 21, 2016 9:12:04 GMT
It would be good to see more canal related threads, but it will probably happen over time. The site was set up to allow space to talk openly without over-moderation. For my part, on CWDF, I used to contribute painting experience. The problem starts when everyone and his grandmother swear by Owatrol. It seemed as though nobody was listening unless Owatrol was part of every sentence to do with good painting.
I lasted for over 11 years painting narrow boats without using more than a can of Owatrol. No additives, no rust treatment. So, I stopped contributing. One other reason, though, all my experience was with paint before the EU directive had the recipes changed. Most of my experience now would be mainly technique based. I would still stand by those techniques.
I think CWDF has wacked the life out its forum with its moderation.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 9:32:17 GMT
It would be good to see more canal related threads, but it will probably happen over time. The site was set up to allow space to talk openly without over-moderation. For my part, on CWDF, I used to contribute painting experience. The problem starts when everyone and his grandmother swear by Owatrol. It seemed as though nobody was listening unless Owatrol was part of every sentence to do with good painting. I lasted for over 11 years painting narrow boats without using more than a can of Owatrol. No additives, no rust treatment. So, I stopped contributing. One other reason, though, all my experience was with paint before the EU directive had the recipes changed. Most of my experience now would be mainly technique based. I would still stand by those techniques. I think CWDF has wacked the life out its forum with its moderation. I can never meet people with your experience when I need them.Can I ask about these recipe changes,what real impact does that have on quality of finish or is the impact purely on preparation and perhaps technique.Forgive me if I appear an idiot,I feel I made a good job of mine and people have complimented the finish,but I was helped by having a good initial work surface
|
|
|
Post by Higgs on May 21, 2016 9:52:13 GMT
It would be good to see more canal related threads, but it will probably happen over time. The site was set up to allow space to talk openly without over-moderation. For my part, on CWDF, I used to contribute painting experience. The problem starts when everyone and his grandmother swear by Owatrol. It seemed as though nobody was listening unless Owatrol was part of every sentence to do with good painting. I lasted for over 11 years painting narrow boats without using more than a can of Owatrol. No additives, no rust treatment. So, I stopped contributing. One other reason, though, all my experience was with paint before the EU directive had the recipes changed. Most of my experience now would be mainly technique based. I would still stand by those techniques. I think CWDF has wacked the life out its forum with its moderation. I can never meet people with your experience when I need them.Can I ask about these recipe changes,what real impact does that have on quality of finish or is the impact purely on preparation and perhaps technique.Forgive me if I appear an idiot,I feel I made a good job of mine and people have complimented the finish,but I was helped by having a good initial work surface
The thing is, I don't know of using these new recipes. People have grumbled a bit and I've no way of knowing if it was because they'd made mistakes in their prep work or made a bad choice in weather conditions or temperature. Most people don't use paint enough to adapt to its limitations. Given experience, these paints may be as usable as before.
Prep work is very important, and so is a decontaminated (degreased and dust-free) surface. Steel temperature, paint temperature, humidity and then technique play their parts, together with speed and confidence. If you have had compliments paid for your work, I should think that is as good as anything.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 11:35:55 GMT
I can never meet people with your experience when I need them.Can I ask about these recipe changes,what real impact does that have on quality of finish or is the impact purely on preparation and perhaps technique.Forgive me if I appear an idiot,I feel I made a good job of mine and people have complimented the finish,but I was helped by having a good initial work surface
The thing is, I don't know of using these new recipes. People have grumbled a bit and I've no way of knowing if it was because they'd made mistakes in their prep work or made a bad choice in weather conditions or temperature. Most people don't use paint enough to adapt to its limitations. Given experience, these paints may be as usable as before.
Prep work is very important, and so is a decontaminated (degreased and dust-free) surface. Steel temperature, paint temperature, humidity and then technique play their parts, together with speed and confidence. If you have had compliments paid for your work, I should think that is as good as anything.
You know what its like,you always feel you could do better next time.
|
|
|
Post by Higgs on May 21, 2016 13:04:47 GMT
If you have had compliments paid for your work, I should think that is as good as anything.
You know what its like,you always feel you could do better next time.
It was no different for me, doing the work everyday.
With one job, every time I applied the top coat, it ended with a rash of fish eye marks. It took me a while to pin point the problem to a little leak in the flue of the heat exchange on the diesel space heater. It didn't exhaust into the painting area, but a small amount of the exhaust was being drawn into the airflow that was blowing into the area. Diesel contains silicon particles.
There are some major benefits to be had by not using additives. You get to know the paint. Anything that does go wrong can be more easily identified by only using the straight paint product. Paint Agents cannot argue that you messed around with their product. You can only get the best out of the paint if you become familiar with its capabilities with practice. Brush marks will disappear of their own accord, it is not necessary to aim for a flat finish at the time the paint is being applied. The application evenly of the right thickness of paint on a flat surface will help. Steel that is cool to the touch and not cold helps.
Painting large areas, like the cabin side, almost requires the painter to be robotic in rhythm.
|
|