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Post by JohnV on Aug 11, 2017 15:11:01 GMT
Been trying to get the engine room halfway tidy before the surveyor comes tomorrow. It's in a real mess with all the major jobs going on, grinding dust, welding slag and rod ends everywhere together with thick old grease from the propshaft and greaser and a generous splash of diesel and water. Trying to find all the tools and put them back in the racks and sort and clean all the parts needed to put the propshaft together again. I couldn't find one of the twelve bolts that hold the cush drive together (6 of them had to be cut to remove them) and of course I could find all of them but not one of the complete ones that I planned on re-using. I hunted high and low and could not find it. so I decided it must have rolled into the bilge (which had an inch of water plus some oil and fairy liquid) the bilge pump leaves about an inch but spread that over the engine room bilge and that's quite a lot of water. It was out with the wet and dry vac. I now have a dry and clean (ish) engine room bilge ........ but no bolt. After messing around for ages doing all this ..... I suddenly remembered ..... I took one with me when I went to buy the replacements ........ yes it was in the bag with the new ones. Sod it ..... I've had enough now ..... it's definitely beer o' clock
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Post by patty on Aug 11, 2017 15:22:46 GMT
Been trying to get the engine room halfway tidy before the surveyor comes tomorrow. It's in a real mess with all the major jobs going on, grinding dust, welding slag and rod ends everywhere together with thick old grease from the propshaft and greaser and a generous splash of diesel and water. Trying to find all the tools and put them back in the racks and sort and clean all the parts needed to put the propshaft together again. I couldn't find one of the twelve bolts that hold the cush drive together (6 of them had to be cut to remove them) and of course I could find all of them but not one of the complete ones that I planned on re-using. I hunted high and low and could not find it. so I decided it must have rolled into the bilge (which had an inch of water plus some oil and fairy liquid) the bilge pump leaves about an inch but spread that over the engine room bilge and that's quite a lot of water. It was out with the wet and dry vac. I now have a dry and clean (ish) engine room bilge ........ but no bolt. After messing around for ages doing all this ..... I suddenly remembered ..... I took one with me when I went to buy the replacements ........ yes it was in the bag with the new ones. Sod it ..... I've had enough now ..... it's definitely beer o' clock Well you kinda put me to shame..i've wafted a hover around Horror House ..did manage a hour on the treadmill at 8am so that I could get my fix of this trashy American tv programme I discovered whilst training for that long walk run thing I did.....I only allow myself to watch it if I go gym to encourage me to keep fit... Yesterday I beat the crowd over to the Worms Head....couldn't possibly let this German geezer race me...and managed to be first over the Causeway in dodgy trainers.... But I have culled lots of overgrown garden this week and been tip with lots rubbish so I guess on average Ive not done so bad...also repaired next doors fence that I bashed in the car.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 13, 2017 18:07:22 GMT
Had the surveyor here yesterday.
I'm very happy to say that he had one of the new generation of ultrasonic testers. They read through paint work, so there was none of the rows of ground off patches as in days of yore.
First the good news
He found no thin steelwork. Comparing his readings with the last set 11 years ago there is no noticeable change in thickness.
Now the bad
In one bottom plate he found some very deep pits. As they are coated with 2 pack paint inside the pits they were obviously missed by the last surveyor (probably because he surveyed before she was grit blasted which probably exposed the pitting) There is some pitting of the same type on an adjacent plate but to a lesser extent.
On the worst pits they are more than half way through the plate !!!. He gave two options, one is to fill the pits with weld but because the two pack is very difficult to remove , it will be tricky work. A more sensible option he thinks, will be to double it using two plates approx 2 foot by 4 foot.
The second plate with a few smaller pits his recommendation is that it can be left, but monitored at next drydocking
Ah well, it would be nice to have had no steelwork at all to do but 4 square foot on a nearly 90 year old boat is not bad.
Today I decided I was going to have a day off !!! I need a break, I seem to have been constantly working for weeks with no breaks at all. Even when I felt knackered and was trying to take it easy, things kept cropping up.
I got the car out and had a bit of a tour round this part of the world, first to Bridlington ....... what can I say about Bridlington ....... I did not think it possible that one small seaside town could support as many fish and chip shops, I honestly lost count, there were dozens. also large numbers of shops selling icecreams and cafes everywhere. What's more the place was absolutely heaving, thousands of people (all seemingly with food in their hands) the whole place was rammed .....I mean I know it was a lovely day but still !!!
I decided to go and see Flamborough Head from the land (I've seen it many times from the sea)
When I got to Flamborough village I found it was the village fete day. There was a band playing with an odd line up .... fiddle, bass and drums. Very very good. excellent fiddle player playing a lot of their own stuff and very good most of it was to. Stayed a while, bought a burger and from one stall some cake.
Then drove back via Driffield. Thoroughly good day, relaxing and totally different. Hopefully it will re-energise me for work tomorrow.
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Post by larkboy on Aug 13, 2017 19:10:38 GMT
John, whilst I'm no expert on two pack epoxy, I can't believe it can be that difficult to get off in a localised area sufficiently to weld it. I'm not a fan of overplating personally and if it were my boat I'd be filling the pits with weld or cutting a section out, veeing the edges and butt welding a new section in. I appreciate it's not so bad for me as it's what I do for a living, and I have my own welding gear and ready access to materials and consumables. Just saying I think it shouldn't be too bad to fill the pits, gas less mig is great these days and we use 3M cubitron 36 grit ceramic discs that cuts through most things, including very heavy millscale.
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Post by larkboy on Aug 13, 2017 19:37:34 GMT
Well, spent most of this weekend in the engine bay (hole) giving the Isuzu and gearbox a fluid and filter change ready for the holiday cruise. When the service was done I then started to investigate a strange current draw that was showing up, even with the distribution board isolated. This at least told me the problem was in the engine bay somewhere. I decided to check all connections in a relatively methodical (for meπ) manner and found several dirty ones, some crimps that had seen better days and cable runs that obviously seemed logical at the time, but now seemed pretty untidy. I set to work and cleaned terminals, battery posts, replaced several crimps and made judicious use of heat shrink. Whilst reinstalling everything I found the positive bus bar that forms part of the line to my battery management panel had main terminals that weren't dead tight (double nut system). I cleaned and tightened these and replaced all the feeds, tidied up several cable runs and voila! No more errant current drawπ. I guess the moral of this story is to check your wiring occasionally, keep terminals clean, and revisit cable runs that were done at earlier stages of ones electrical knowledge. It was a bit of a marathon, but it was well worth the bad back, and a lesson learned.
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Post by patty on Aug 13, 2017 19:56:10 GMT
i hope you get the pitting sorted....i cannot nor would presume to advise regarding best solution... Ive had a strange sorta weekend..walked into visit one of my ancient friends having decided to check up on him...his face a weeping blistered ulcerated mess so put him in the car and took trip to A and E...his gp had prescribed a gel that was not suitable for the complaint and the hospital rather taken aback at what had happened...hes now on huge doses antibiotics.... next plan to check out my other ancient friend......
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Post by JohnV on Aug 13, 2017 21:19:54 GMT
John, whilst I'm no expert on two pack epoxy, I can't believe it can be that difficult to get off in a localised area sufficiently to weld it. I'm not a fan of overplating personally and if it were my boat I'd be filling the pits with weld or cutting a section out, veeing the edges and butt welding a new section in. I appreciate it's not so bad for me as it's what I do for a living, and I have my own welding gear and ready access to materials and consumables. Just saying I think it shouldn't be too bad to fill the pits, gas less mig is great these days and we use 3M cubitron 36 grit ceramic discs that cuts through most things, including very heavy millscale. It's more the fact you have to grind out the paint from inside a pit that's only about 6mm in diameter but 3.5mm to 4mm deep without removing half an acre of steel. I did wonder if drilling it out might be a more sensible way to clean the pit and just grinding the surface around it, rather than trying to excavate it with a grinder. I don't consider doubling a problem if done properly, especially when it's going over what is basically sound plate with localised damage. There are quite large areas of Sabina that have been doubled, Some by me 20 years ago, some by earlier owners maybe up to 50 years ago. Access to the inside for back capping would also be very inconvenient as it seems to be under my galley, so I would prefer doubling. The use of small plates (about 2' square) should negate the need for letterboxing.
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Post by phil70 on Aug 13, 2017 22:10:04 GMT
Well, spent most of this weekend in the engine bay (hole) giving the Isuzu and gearbox a fluid and filter change ready for the holiday cruise. When the service was done I then started to investigate a strange current draw that was showing up, even with the distribution board isolated. This at least told me the problem was in the engine bay somewhere. I decided to check all connections in a relatively methodical (for meπ) manner and found several dirty ones, some crimps that had seen better days and cable runs that obviously seemed logical at the time, but now seemed pretty untidy. I set to work and cleaned terminals, battery posts, replaced several crimps and made judicious use of heat shrink. Whilst reinstalling everything I found the positive bus bar that forms part of the line to my battery management panel had main terminals that weren't dead tight (double nut system). I cleaned and tightened these and replaced all the feeds, tidied up several cable runs and voila! No more errant current drawπ.Β Β I guess the moral of this story is to check your wiring occasionally, keep terminals clean, and revisit cable runs that were done at earlier stages of ones electrical knowledge. It was a bit of a marathon, but it was well worth the bad back, and a lesson learned. Thanks for clearing that up Dave, I kept spotting you in the engine 'ole when glancing between the floating lodges and thought you were engaged in some serious fettling. Phil
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 8:29:41 GMT
No boat related goings on this weekend. Had a good session round the house instead. Carpets given their six monthly clean with the super duper Vax cleaner that makes a jet engine sound quite. Oven cleaned, bbqs cleaned with the obscenely dear Cadac cleaner that turned out to be nothing more than Mr Muscle type foaming oven cleaner. Hedges cut. Lawns mowed and strimmed - that will need doing again by the end of the week though. Weeds pulled and the gaps in the patio and path cleared of grass tufts. Front and utility room door frames sanded, primed and undercoated ready for a lick of topcoat tonight. I'm gonna need a holiday on the boat after all that
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Post by patty on Aug 14, 2017 13:25:03 GMT
No boat related goings on this weekend. Had a good session round the house instead. Carpets given their six monthly clean with the super duper Vax cleaner that makes a jet engine sound quite. Oven cleaned, bbqs cleaned with the obscenely dear Cadac cleaner that turned out to be nothing more than Mr Muscle type foaming oven cleaner. Hedges cut. Lawns mowed and strimmed - that will need doing again by the end of the week though. Weeds pulled and the gaps in the patio and path cleared of grass tufts. Front and utility room door frames sanded, primed and undercoated ready for a lick of topcoat tonight. I'm gonna need a holiday on the boat after all that Thats impressive....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 13:31:33 GMT
No boat related goings on this weekend. Had a good session round the house instead. Carpets given their six monthly clean with the super duper Vax cleaner that makes a jet engine sound quite. Oven cleaned, bbqs cleaned with the obscenely dear Cadac cleaner that turned out to be nothing more than Mr Muscle type foaming oven cleaner. Hedges cut. Lawns mowed and strimmed - that will need doing again by the end of the week though. Weeds pulled and the gaps in the patio and path cleared of grass tufts. Front and utility room door frames sanded, primed and undercoated ready for a lick of topcoat tonight. I'm gonna need a holiday on the boat after all that Thats impressive.... I was glad to get back to work for a rest today! On the weed front we have an infestation of Bindweed that is competing with the the hedge, I dragged a load out and had a bash at doing for the roots, absolutely nothing compared to your knotweed issues though! The dwarf and I also managed to nip down to the boat for a couple of hours to drop off some of the mountain of stuff we seem to need for a two week holiday. This left Mrs Gazza in peace to pack clothes and get all her ducks in a row. Just left with work Laundry to do on Friday and we are free to go π
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Post by Jim on Aug 14, 2017 15:30:31 GMT
Moved the boat just far enough the other day. Now refurbing a honda 100 outboard and a brompton, to get a stick down solar panel and mppt controller.
Strange tale about the Brompton, bought it 15 years ago for Β£120, the old guy beat ME down and wouldn't take more! Got another along the way so we had a pair for the boat. Narcolepsy and cataplexy mean better half can't ride so put it up for sale. Went on eBay for Β£525, the guy started to ask questions after he had paid. Sent it off, got a complaint from the buyer, "not as described", I told him to raise it with eBay, after a week they said I had given true description. No refund. The best thing, though, the bike arrived back home damaged, the day before eBay decision! The damage, I think, was caused by him throwing it across the room in a tantrum. I sent the guy details of "storage fees" for "his bike" and requested he pay for return. 1 year or more on this hasn't happened, I have the bike and the money (spent on the boat!)
So half an hour to fettle and repair it and it's back on eBay today! With an accurate description and pics of the condition and repairs obvs.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 14, 2017 19:48:21 GMT
Busy busy day !!! first off a couple of photos with the kind permission of Foxey of the prop originally. P7315348 by mudlarker2, on Flickr P7315350 by mudlarker2, on Flickr this was removed last week and sent off to Woodwards The refurbished and re-pitched prop was returned last Friday evening together with a new duplex stainless shaft. This was installed this morning although fitting the intermediate shaft was a bit of a pig and needed a small person to squeeze into the space SAM_0859 by mudlarker2, on Flickr SAM_0849 by mudlarker2, on Flickr The prop shaft installed and the prop temporarily mounted (it needed to be on for Woodwards to measure the clearance before making the backing plate for the sand trap) SAM_0844 by mudlarker2, on Flickr SAM_0860 by mudlarker2, on Flickr With the prop temporarily in place we were then able to measure and start fabricating the half Kort nozzle SAM_0865 by mudlarker2, on Flickr
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 19:59:27 GMT
What diameter is the prop please?
I would have expected something humongous on Sabina.
Rog
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Post by JohnV on Aug 14, 2017 20:12:41 GMT
about 28" you cant fit bigger without major changes to the (original) skeg
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