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Post by JohnV on Sept 18, 2017 13:44:45 GMT
Why the hell it's called the Dog and Duck, I don't know. It's an incredible collection of the big old barges of the Northeast just lying here, unloved and unwanted. Looking for a new life as a houseboat or the scrap heap. It's fascinating going to look at them but also very sad SAM_0932 by mudlarker2, on Flickr SAM_0934 by mudlarker2, on Flickr SAM_0935 by mudlarker2, on Flickr SAM_0936 by mudlarker2, on Flickr SAM_0938 by mudlarker2, on Flickr These last pictures of the Heather Rose H are as she is now but I include some shots of her from a few years ago when she was still working and I was fortunate enough to see these grand old timers still doing what they were built for. SAM_0939 by mudlarker2, on Flickr SAM_0941 by mudlarker2, on Flickr 175 by mudlarker2, on Flickr 176 by mudlarker2, on Flickr 160 by mudlarker2, on Flickr
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Post by peterboat on Sept 18, 2017 15:42:57 GMT
It is sad John the collection seems to grow bigger year by year
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Post by bargemast on Sept 18, 2017 16:52:39 GMT
I agree, it's really very sad to see these (some even not very) old barges laying idle, mainly waiting to be cut up.
Most of them are a bit to big to use as a cruising houseboat, and won't look nice when shortened to easier dimensions.
Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 17:09:20 GMT
Battlestone in better days passing us as we left Bulholme lock, Castleford Cut. October 2011.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 18, 2017 17:21:15 GMT
www.waterwaysmuseum.org.uk/item/view-of-dog-and-duck-yard-goole-after-the-launch/2205www.gooleships.co.uk/camplingsb/camplingsb.htmAnd then this, from here: www.goole-on-the-web.org.uk/main.php?key=189Posted by f huntington at 02/07/2007 20:24 Top Yard the name above has always been applied to the repair yard,which was then (in 1949)a part of the Aire and Calder navigation,and was subsequently part of the nationalisation of many industries.It subsequently was called the D.I.W.E.(divisional inland waterways engineering) or executive. The yard manager at that time was Mr Charles Marland, and he was superceded by Mr Leslie Pearce,the well known Goole Town cricketer. The timber pond was a shallow area some 200 yards upstream of the repair yard where baulks of timber were floated in and left to season or stored until required. Directly across from the timber pond was a basin known as the "Dog and Duck" ,I seem to remember being told that sometime in the past a pub of that name had been located there. At the time I worked at the Top yard the "Dog and Duck" basin was the site of Camplings repair yard owned and managed by the late Claude Campling. I have a host of memories of the time I worked there from 1949, until 1964. If anyone wants to know of people or events during that time I would be glad to help them and share my memories of that period of my life f huntington Posted by pete at 06/07/2007 18:20 I remember also my parents some 60+ years ago mentioning a pub named the Dog and Duck in this area. For Jim top yard as stated by F.Huntington during my childhood we had the top yard and the shipyard so I can only surmise the bottom yard would be goole shipbuilders. Posted by Shuffleton Streets at 07/07/2007 09:24 Believe it is so, that Dog and Duck may have been a "beer house" once upon a time, probably when the basin behind it was the canal boat mooring, in earliest days of Goole's history, i.e. 1820s - 50s. Have a look at www.old-maps.org. In the 40s, it was home of Acaster family, although perhaps it began as a lock-keeper's canalside cottage. There were small cottages for canal workers south of present Dutch River and Canal bridges. Called Bridge Houses 5 and 6 in 1901 census, lived in until 40s, if not later.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 18, 2017 17:25:36 GMT
The question is, why are these boats all just standing there slowly rotting? I thought there was supposed to be a housing shortage in Britain / homeless all over the place? How about the local council snapping up these boats and supporting them as reasonably-priced rented accommodation?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 17:44:22 GMT
The Dog and Duck sounds like a pub name
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 17:47:38 GMT
The question is, why are these boats all just standing there slowly rotting? I thought there was supposed to be a housing shortage in Britain / homeless all over the place? How about the local council snapping up these boats and supporting them as reasonably-priced rented accommodation? It'd be pointless. It'd be more sensible to weld up some new steel boxes for this purpose rather than use past their sell by date commercial barges.
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Post by bodger on Sept 18, 2017 18:37:29 GMT
wot a load of sentimental twaddle.
........ yeah, just feeling a bit cynical but really - why does anyone expect a load of old barges beyond their sell-by date be any different from a defunct factory, a car scrapyard or a derelict building?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 18:42:09 GMT
The question is, why are these boats all just standing there slowly rotting? I thought there was supposed to be a housing shortage in Britain / homeless all over the place? How about the local council snapping up these boats and supporting them as reasonably-priced rented accommodation? It'd be pointless. It'd be more sensible to weld up some new steel boxes for this purpose rather than use past their sell by date commercial barges. Second hand steel boxes are available just for this purpose. m.bedfordshire-news.co.uk/bedfordshire-designer-max-mcmurdo-s-floating/story-28164341-detail/story.htmlNext time I'm at Priory I will take a photo of the services connection to Max's floating pad 😰🔨🔨🔨🔨🚢⚓👍😢
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 18:55:30 GMT
wot a load of sentimental twaddle. ........ yeah, just feeling a bit cynical but really - why does anyone expect a load of old barges beyond their sell-by date be any different from a defunct factory, a car scrapyard or a derelict building? This is true in this particular case because the boats are not usable in a leisure environment. If it was a load of old narrow boats being decommissioned it'd be a different story. But is isn't so it isn't.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 18, 2017 19:06:41 GMT
wot a load of sentimental twaddle. ........ yeah, just feeling a bit cynical but really - why does anyone expect a load of old barges beyond their sell-by date be any different from a defunct factory, a car scrapyard or a derelict building? No difference. People do live in old windmills and have fine views! There is something romantic about living in an old barge, wondering what it used to do and where it's been, and possibly that it can still move up and down a bit. it's a bit quirkier than living in a modern house. One of the reasons we like our old boat - we don't know its history 1986-2006, and like the idea that the boat is seeing new territory for the first time and is experiencing new adventures. Lots of old mills have been turned into accommodation, and we have seen lots that are just standing derelict which is a shame although adds to the mood of dereliction, depression and despair Up North. A car scrapyard is hardly likely to be a cosy place to live exposed to the elements, and dangerous with old oils, fuels and batteries and broken glass, is it? inside old barge slightly less cosy
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Post by JohnV on Sept 18, 2017 19:08:58 GMT
wot a load of sentimental twaddle. ........ yeah, just feeling a bit cynical but really - why does anyone expect a load of old barges beyond their sell-by date be any different from a defunct factory, a car scrapyard or a derelict building? You're wrong on this one ...... there is no work for them although they have many years of life left in them ...... but there bloody well should be work for them !!!They are capable of moving several hundred tons of bulk materials economically with a low carbon footprint. Decades of lobbying pressure by the road haulage interests and an uneven playing field has caused this situation. The waterways system of the Northeast, unlike the narrow ditches of the Midlands, has been modernised but is, IMHO disgustingly underused.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 19:43:38 GMT
wot a load of sentimental twaddle. ........ yeah, just feeling a bit cynical but really - why does anyone expect a load of old barges beyond their sell-by date be any different from a defunct factory, a car scrapyard or a derelict building? You're wrong on this one ...... there is no work for them although they have many years of life left in them ...... but there bloody well should be work for them !!!They are capable of moving several hundred tons of bulk materials economically with a low carbon footprint. Decades of lobbying pressure by the road haulage interests and an uneven playing field has caused this situation. The waterways system of the Northeast, unlike the narrow ditches of the Midlands, has been modernised but is, IMHO disgustingly underused. That like button doesn't sit easy at times! I agree with John is a little harder to fit into the browser tab button thingy
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Post by peterboat on Sept 18, 2017 23:35:12 GMT
We had a boat that was moored up at the Dog and Duck on Saturday go past our moorings today carrying a load of oil clean and cheaply, Lorries should be for only short haul, boats like these [not narrowboats] are the best way to move a lot of freight hopefully the government will see the light and reward companies that move freight by rail and water
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