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Post by thebfg on Oct 20, 2017 8:24:35 GMT
Morning all.
The day has almost arrived and tomorrow, Saturday, we move the boat to its home mooring, now I just have a couple of questions. I am sure more will follow but for now.
1) can anyone explain how the travel power works? there seems to be two inverters, one for tv and one for fridge/freezer. So I presume all the other 240 comes from the travel power. would I be right in saying that the engine needs to be running for this to work. I also guess it uses the second alternator. I do have all the wiring diagrams but it says there is a generator in the engine bay. which I have not seen.
2) When I turn on the water pump, it runs constantly. is this because its been laid up and needs to pressurise it self, if so how long should we leave it running until I start checking for leaks? would it be worth putting water into the tank as I have no idea how much is in there.
thank you very much, once I've spent some time aboard and have read the manuels hopefully I can work out heating and the bubble stove, if not that will be the next questions.
Adi
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Post by tonyb on Oct 20, 2017 8:36:13 GMT
2. Unless the tank is empty it should turn off within seconds. If water flows out of the taps without air bubbles then I fear you have some kind of leak but it could be the PRV near the calorifier or a faulty pressure switch.
1. There is no reason why either inverter should not also feed the mains sockets but if one is doing so I suspect it will be the "TV one". Easy to check, plug something else into a socket with the engine off and turn each inverter on in turn - ONE AT A TIME! If you get no mains then its as you say, fed from the Travelpower.
The Travel power is fed from its own special alternator that does look a bit like a normal one but with a large harness joining it to the control box. It very often also feeds a hefty charger to charge the domestic batteries.
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Post by thebfg on Oct 20, 2017 8:48:32 GMT
2. Unless the tank is empty it should turn off within seconds. If water flows out of the taps without air bubbles then I fear you have some kind of leak but it could be the PRV near the calorifier or a faulty pressure switch. 1. There is no reason why either inverter should not also feed the mains sockets but if one is doing so I suspect it will be the "TV one". Easy to check, plug something else into a socket with the engine off and turn each inverter on in turn - ONE AT A TIME! If you get no mains then its as you say, fed from the Travelpower. The Travel power is fed from its own special alternator that does look a bit like a normal one but with a large harness joining it to the control box. It very often also feeds a hefty charger to charge the domestic batteries. thank you so my first port of call in the morning will be to put some water in the tank. see if that works. the tv inverter is a little plug in type, the tv goes into it directly fed by its own battery in the bow. there is another battery in the bow that's for the bow thruster. the other inverter is afaik directly connected to the fridge behind it but I will double check with your test. there are two large chargers one in the engine bay and one in the electric cupboard, I did have photos but my phone is kaput. at the moment I believe one is for the leisure batteries at the back and one is for the two at the front I just wanted to double check before we cruise for the first time, don't want to fill it up with water on day 1. Thank you. Adi |
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Post by tonyb on Oct 20, 2017 10:38:50 GMT
If you are right about the chargers then ideally the one for the front batteries should be at the front because you will get far less voltdrop along the boat's length of cable run and 240V than you will at 12/24V. However it they charge well enough for you that is all that matters.
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Post by lollygagger on Oct 20, 2017 18:24:14 GMT
The inverters are to run 240v stuff when the engine isn't running.
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Post by thebfg on Oct 20, 2017 18:39:09 GMT
The inverters are to run 240v stuff when the engine isn't running. One is behind the fridge to run that and is practically unacesable The other is a one socket job by the tv. So we could connect to that if needed but afaik none are connected to any other socket |
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Post by lollygagger on Oct 20, 2017 18:46:52 GMT
The inverters are to run 240v stuff when the engine isn't running. One is behind the fridge to run that and is practically unacesable The other is a one socket job by the tv. So we could connect to that if needed but afaik none are connected to any other socket Then your 240 fridge is run constantly from the batteries via the inverter, no need to get at it. |
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Post by thebfg on Oct 20, 2017 18:50:30 GMT
One is behind the fridge to run that and is practically unacesable The other is a one socket job by the tv. So we could connect to that if needed but afaik none are connected to any other socket Then your 240 fridge is run constantly from the batteries via the inverter, no need to get at it. Don't worry we will. I've never had travel power so will be interesting to see how it works |
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Post by lollygagger on Oct 20, 2017 18:57:32 GMT
Then your 240 fridge is run constantly from the batteries via the inverter, no need to get at it. Don't worry we will. I've never had travel power so will be interesting to see how it works My new boat has one too. I guess good to run the washing machine as you tootle along. Buggered if I can think what else to do with it! |
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Post by Telemachus on Oct 20, 2017 23:14:16 GMT
Morning all. The day has almost arrived and tomorrow, Saturday, we move the boat to its home mooring, now I just have a couple of questions. I am sure more will follow but for now. 1) can anyone explain how the travel power works? there seems to be two inverters, one for tv and one for fridge/freezer. So I presume all the other 240 comes from the travel power. would I be right in saying that the engine needs to be running for this to work. I also guess it uses the second alternator. I do have all the wiring diagrams but it says there is a generator in the engine bay. which I have not seen. 2) When I turn on the water pump, it runs constantly. is this because its been laid up and needs to pressurise it self, if so how long should we leave it running until I start checking for leaks? would it be worth putting water into the tank as I have no idea how much is in there. thank you very much, once I've spent some time aboard and have read the manuels hopefully I can work out heating and the bubble stove, if not that will be the next questions. Adi The Travelpower consists of an alternator which is modified to produce around 300v. This is fed into a ”magic box”, out of which comes 220v AC 50Hz regardless of engine speed (within reason). At idle, maximum power is quite limited and if you want to get the full rated power you will need to be at higher rpm. It’s not good for the belt, pulleys etc to try to get a lot of power out of a TP at low engine revs. Depending on the model there will be lights or a display to tell you that the engine rpm is too low, or unnecessarily high, for the load. That’s about it really - run the engine, get mains power! |
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Post by patty on Oct 21, 2017 5:56:38 GMT
Enjoy your trip..I'm guessing you will wait for this 'breeze' to blow over.....
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Post by thebfg on Oct 21, 2017 12:47:05 GMT
Enjoy your trip..I'm guessing you will wait for this 'breeze' to blow over..... It's not been too bad. Trying to get in for some of the swing bridges have been amusing. We are getting blown about when slow so have gone past a few moored boats quicker. The boat handles like a dream though. Where ever or what ever I want it to do, it does. Currently Sat in the barge in having lunch.  |
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Post by patty on Oct 21, 2017 12:53:38 GMT
How lovely..wind here horrendous, just returned from walking daughters dog and staying in now
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Post by thebfg on Oct 21, 2017 12:59:02 GMT
How lovely..wind here horrendous, just returned from walking daughters dog and staying in now It's dry but gusty. I can cope. When we left Southampton the heavens opened up. The motorway was a river. I nearly turned around but i presume that blew towards London |
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Post by Jim on Oct 21, 2017 15:34:39 GMT
Weather turned wet and windy here in the Pennines. Stoking up the woodstove.
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