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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 14, 2019 15:36:48 GMT
Shamima Begum: British Isis member who fled to Syria 'has right to return to UK', security minister says. A British woman who joined Isis in Syria “has the right” to return to the UK despite admitting her involvement with the group, the security minister has said. Shamima Begum, who was 15 when she fled to the “Islamic State” with two friends, said she had no regrets. “I don't regret coming here,” she told The Times: “I'm not the same silly little 15-year-old schoolgirl who ran away from Bethnal Green four years ago. Speaking from a refugee camp after fleeing Isis's last territory in eastern Syria, the pregnant 19-year-old said two of her young children had died and she wanted to return to the UK for the safety of her third child. “As a British citizen she has a right to come home here,” Ben Wallace told Sky News. “We are obliged to make sure our citizens have rights, no matter who they are.” " Has she beheaded anyone? Perhaps she's heard of London's knife crime rates and thought "Cool, I want a piece of that action!" Who will be paying for her and her child's upkeep when she gets back to England - the British taxpayer or her beloved Isis pals? Pregnant three times already at the age of 19?www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/shamima-begum-isis-british-return-uk-london-bethnal-green-syria-terror-a8778821.html
Ben Wallace. Why not have her stay at your place, Ben?
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 14, 2019 15:47:29 GMT
I agree with your assessment and of course muslims who went to help ISIS seem to come back unpunished!! Could that be because Muslims are running the show? Mayor of London Mayor of Sheffield
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 14, 2019 15:52:14 GMT
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 14, 2019 16:05:59 GMT
She said that seeing her first "severed head" in a bin "didn't faze me at all".
"It was from a captured fighter seized on the battlefield, an enemy of Islam."
Yes, let her back in, sounds trustworthy! Just don't let her see you eating a bacon sandwich, or it'll be your head next in the bin!
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Post by Trina on Feb 14, 2019 16:11:47 GMT
Words(almost) fail me...How stupid can the powers that be get?
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Post by bodger on Feb 14, 2019 17:24:00 GMT
no doubt we will be told that she was only a child when she made her fateful and foolish decision. if she wasn't old enough to be responsible for her actions, why the hell is someone of that age allowed to buy a ticket, and to travel without adequate evidence of parental permission? I expect the yumanrites brigade have a view on this, which just contributes to the mixed-up toothless laws we have to endure.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 17:50:39 GMT
no doubt we will be told that she was only a child when she made her fateful and foolish decision. if she wasn't old enough to be responsible for her actions, why the hell is someone of that age allowed to buy a ticket, and to travel without adequate evidence of parental permission? I expect the yumanrites brigade have a view on this, which just contributes to the mixed-up toothless laws we have to endure. I suppose she may not have had a choice but go out there in her mind at the time. Probably brainwashed or/and bullied. Don’t forget many muslim girls are mutilated by peer pressure. Personally I think this story has been spun up by the media to stir shit up again. Most people do get on in this country regardless of religious and political views. I do think the muslim community could help matters by protesting more about the extremism in their own communities. I wonder whether some of the strong feelings we see are down to ‘what it means to be ‘British’’? We were/are world famous for our culture, sovereignty and quirkinesses. I’m all for multiculturalism but over my lifetime I have seen a gradual decay in the very culture which immigrants sought to belong to. The EU is doing nothing to retain our culture either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 17:57:39 GMT
She said that seeing her first "severed head" in a bin "didn't faze me at all". "It was from a captured fighter seized on the battlefield, an enemy of Islam." Yes, let her back in, sounds trustworthy! Just don't let her see you eating a bacon sandwich, or it'll be your head next in the bin!I’ve got to ask you Foxy. Have you ever had any muslim friends?
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Post by patty on Feb 14, 2019 17:57:57 GMT
We have the medias version of events...how much of what she said true...none really know except her That said I wouldn't feel easy with such a woman allowed back without some form of checks and kept an eye on
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Post by Trina on Feb 14, 2019 18:07:18 GMT
I have good friends who just happen to be Muslims.They feel like they have to say sorry about events like this-which is sad.There are good & bad everywhere.However,folk who go to engage with terrorist forces for ISIS etc do not deserve to live back in Britain.Just listened to the girl being interviewed- an evil,hard bitch who calmly stated that she wasn't fazed by seeing heads in bins.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 18:19:11 GMT
To put my cards on the table, I grew up in a very multicultural area in the early 70s. My best friend for a few years was from an Afghan family, A very intelltgent and kind family. My point. stereotyping and polarised thinking is VERY dangerous. We are more vulnerable than we think sometimes when it comes to being manipulated by the media. They, like most of us, are driven by money. Peace can only happen if we educate people from ALL levels of society to understand that living in a world driven by greed will NOT make us. or our loved ones, happy. It’s not doing the planet many favours either. ....then again, you all knew that already didn’t you?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 18:34:07 GMT
I’ve got to ask you Foxy. Have you ever had any muslim friends? I am not convinced Foxy has any friends, he seems to spend his life driving a bus on icy roads or on his computer giving us the benefit of his advice, whether we want it or not I don't see him embracing multiculturalism, he's still with the Dinosaurs.
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Post by peterboat on Feb 14, 2019 18:41:05 GMT
I’ve got to ask you Foxy. Have you ever had any muslim friends? I am not convinced Foxy has any friends, he seems to spend his life driving a bus on icy roads or on his computer giving us the benefit o his advice! I don't see him embracing multiculturalism, he's still with the Dinosaurs. You dont know him at all, he has many friends on this forum, a lot of us have met him, drank and eaten with him and witchy,. He is a kind and friendly guy who goes out of his way to help others! As I said You dont know him at all, so please dont talk about him as if you do
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Post by JohnV on Feb 14, 2019 18:50:49 GMT
many people show a great deal of difference between their internet and face to face persona
Foxy is one such and Peterboats description is in line with my opinion of him as well
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2019 18:53:26 GMT
I am not convinced Foxy has any friends, he seems to spend his life driving a bus on icy roads or on his computer giving us the benefit o his advice! I don't see him embracing multiculturalism, he's still with the Dinosaurs. You dont know him at all, he has many friends on this forum, a lot of us have met him, drank and eaten with him and witchy,. He is a kind and friendly guy who goes out of his way to help others! As I said You dont know him at all, so please dont talk about him as if you do Good post. I’d be very happy to meet up with Foxy. I do think understanding people’s background helps when trying to put what they say in context. Hopefully we’ll all continue to learn from eachother.
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