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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 16:01:24 GMT
The last one is a real thing of beauty.
Lovely. Thanks for putting those pictures up. For some unknown reason I can't hate that.
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Post by JohnV on Sept 14, 2018 17:16:30 GMT
Oddly it's the second tug I like ..... probably because it looks as if it would go to work tomorrow. The first one, although very pretty, seems to have its towing point quite well aft, which would make it a bit un-handy for towing, I dislike the double wheelhouse in the third although I imagine good for pushing. The last one has moved too far from it's roots for me.
ETA forgot to say ..... nice pictures Peter .... thanks for posting them
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Post by bargemast on Sept 14, 2018 18:29:37 GMT
Oddly it's the second tug I like ..... probably because it looks as if it would go to work tomorrow. The first one, although very pretty, seems to have its towing point quite well aft, which would make it a bit un-handy for towing, I dislike the double wheelhouse in the third although I imagine good for pushing. The last one has moved too far from it's roots for me. ETA forgot to say ..... nice pictures Peter .... thanks for posting them That second tug is ready to work with John, it could go to work tomorrow (or 1 to 2 days later, to change the papers of ownership in your name ). Here is the complete ad with many more photo's and a discription (in Dutch ) www.marktplaats.nl/a/watersport-en-boten/beroepsscheepvaart/m1311120081-mslb-alcyon-te-koop-met-nieuwe-si.html?c=3c1f5dcc18d02a99040ca8de656940d2&previousPage=lrMany tugs in the lowlands have been adapted for pushing, as that's a lot easier than towing through very busy waterways, on the Rhine you'll only see pushers nowadays. I don't like the second wheelhouse either, but it's highly practical when you're pushing empty barges. One of my ex-ex tugs had a second wheelhouse too, which was very comfortable, much better view, and further away from engineroom noises. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 17:28:21 GMT
I spotted this rather nice little tug near tower bridge. Obviously converted for pleasure use. No idea of the name and as its not on the cut there is no index number. Very pleasant little vessel
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Post by kris on Sept 21, 2018 8:10:52 GMT
Not a bad tender.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 10:21:11 GMT
I think its great. Probably a boring engine in there as it looks like a new cabin for accommodation and engine under the cockpit I would say. I've seen it done on another tug Glenlee which originally had a Gleniffer in the cabin but now has a 6 cylinder BMC under the cockpit. Works fine and gives you accomodation space which would not otherwise be available.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 19:50:04 GMT
Environment agency tug "VER" today at the Sunbury yard. Nice boat. Shame about the fenders. They used to do proper ones on these boats. looks like the back two are the real thing but a bit weedridden. Rather than just a thick hawser (a type of heavy multiplait rope which is not used on that part of the river anyway) the traditional way to make fenders is to take some scrap towing rope about one and a half inch diameter (usually staple spun polypropylene in the case of the Environment agency, National Rivers Authority and Thames water before them), open it up and do crosspointing over a central core of the same rope. I made a set of fenders for my barge that way. To be fair they do attract vegetation. It works though and looks a lot better than thick stuff folded over. On this one they seem to have used 3 inch diameter multiplait for the fenders towards the bow. Very lazy fender making for an upriver tug. JohnV knows about this sort of cordage Still a nice tug though.
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Post by JohnV on Sept 26, 2018 6:42:00 GMT
On this one they seem to have used 3 inch diameter multiplait for the fenders towards the bow. JohnV knows about this sort of cordage and that type of fender
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Post by bargemast on Oct 2, 2018 8:39:30 GMT
On the delivery trip of my little boat, I saw a few tugs and tug conversions too, of which I tried to take some viewable photos. As this was with my phone, they're not very good as I couldn't get close enough to take better ones, without the non-existing tele lens This tug destroyed the weir with the barge it was pushing when the river was in flood. Ended up on the bank when the Seine was in flood. One of my ex-boats, a now converted motordekschuit that used to tow a string of dekschuiten Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 11:00:48 GMT
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Post by bargemast on Oct 2, 2018 11:41:41 GMT
Nice photo of that tug, I enjoyed looking at a few others of that tug on the site you listed. On a photo of a tug "pushing the tide", I would have expected to see a fairly clear bow-wave, of which there's no sign here. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 11:48:47 GMT
Yes the photo is a bit odd. When I saw the tug approaching it was making a nice white topped bow wave. As it approached he slowed right down as a rash of rowers (scullers) appeared from behind me so the tug skipper was considerately reducing his wash. So when I took the picture the boat was moving much slower than I remember seeing it initially. I waited for the first few to go past me so that they did not clutter up the photo. There is a sign of rowers to the far right. More came afterwards and the tug skipper waved enthusiastically at the rowers. The tug I started the thread with belonged to the same company and was sold to be converted to a houseboat. Its possible the same has happened here. I don't know. Tug was towing a dory (tender) so presumably aiming for a midstream mooring somewhere and going inward towards Teddington.
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Post by bargemast on Oct 2, 2018 13:52:14 GMT
Yes the photo is a bit odd. When I saw the tug approaching it was making a nice white topped bow wave. As it approached he slowed right down as a rash of rowers (scullers) appeared from behind me so the tug skipper was considerately reducing his wash. So when I took the picture the boat was moving much slower than I remember seeing it initially. I waited for the first few to go past me so that they did not clutter up the photo. There is a sign of rowers to the far right. More came afterwards and the tug skipper waved enthusiastically at the rowers. The tug I started the thread with belonged to the same company and was sold to be converted to a houseboat. Its possible the same has happened here. I don't know. Tug was towing a dory (tender) so presumably aiming for a midstream mooring somewhere and going inward towards Teddington. I can't imagine that there was much of a tide there, as even a non moving boat would create a bow wave, but that's not the important part, it's the photo that counts. There used to be a quite similar tug in France some 30 years ago that belonged to an English couple, sadly I can't find any photos of it anymore. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 15:16:50 GMT
It was just after high water. HW Richmond prediction was 0805. Time stamp on my photo as 0842. The tide was running out a little bit but not a lot. And the tug skipper might have put it in neutral looking at that picture.
About 10 minutes after that when I turned below the entrance to Brentford lock the tide was going about 2 knots so beginning to pick up.
I expect my description of the tug punching the tide is a bit inaccurate however I did not actually look at that picture until I posted it. I saw the tug coming with a decent bow wave and got phone out then twat rowers appeared so I had to wait by which time it was too late.
Sorry for the misleading information.
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Post by bargemast on Oct 18, 2018 8:05:45 GMT
As we haven't seen any nice tugs for a while, I'll try to post a few photos of a tug that belongs to a friend who had an accident about 2 months ago. When he came out of a lock on the Seine, a big barge that followed him run over his tug and sunk it, him and a girlfriend managed to get out and swim ashore, the boat is a wreck now. Supposedly there's € 200.000 needed to restore the boat to it's former glory, and it's by no means sure that the insurance is ready to pay. A very sad story. A newspaper article about the boat: www.leparisien.fr/le-coudray-montceaux-91830/essonne-un-bateau-echoue-au-coudray-montceaux-27-08-2018-7867080.phpPeter.
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