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Post by naughtyfox on May 27, 2018 7:24:35 GMT
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Post by Delta9 on May 27, 2018 7:29:10 GMT
Fake paddle steamer
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Post by naughtyfox on May 27, 2018 7:34:17 GMT
Why did English Holiday Cruises want to sell it?
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Post by naughtyfox on May 27, 2018 7:38:42 GMT
Worth £245,000 ? Who says ? Anyway - not any more!
"No pollution was caused" - so, a ship at the bottom of the sea is not regarded as 'pollution'? Bizarre.
RNLI staff were rushed to the scene, but there was nothing they could do
(apart from drink tea out of their naughty un-PC mugs?)
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Post by Delta9 on May 27, 2018 7:45:08 GMT
It wasn't historic, it wasn't a paddle steamer and it definitely wasn't worth 245k.
A ship at the bottom of the sea isn't pollution because it causes no damage, it probably benefits local wildlife by giving them somewhere to live. Old ships are often sunk in strategic locations to benefit wildlife.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 7:46:40 GMT
Looks like a pile of shite deliberately sunk to me.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 27, 2018 7:53:53 GMT
I found the comments below the Daily Mail article somewhat amusing.
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Post by Delta9 on May 27, 2018 8:16:05 GMT
Please don't share them with us.
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 27, 2018 8:18:09 GMT
If it sank three hours after the coastguard was called, as was obviously taking on water some time before that, then surely it was not taking on water so fast that it couldn't have been pumped out?
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Post by JohnV on May 27, 2018 8:55:34 GMT
I must admit the first thought I had was ......... "why didn't the tug get a pump or two on board her as soon as they noticed"
However I wasn't there and there might have been problems/dangers involved.
It might have been that they didn't have a suitable petrol/diesel pump or possibly there wasn't enough suitable deck space on the barge to work.
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Post by bargemast on May 27, 2018 9:27:27 GMT
One thing is sure in this sinking, they were not, or only very badly prepared for this sea-crossing.
I have my doubts about the experience of the people involved, the seas, and the crossing of them, are often much under-estimated.
Peter.
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Post by JohnV on May 27, 2018 10:50:31 GMT
One thing is sure in this sinking, they were not, or only very badly prepared for this sea-crossing. I have my doubts about the experience of the people involved, the seas, and the crossing of them, are often much under-estimated. Peter. Someone I know had a barge sink that he was towing. It had been prepared by the owner to the recommendations of the MCA and passed by them as fit to be towed.It was totally sealed and the tug firm had nothing to do with it. You would expect the MCA to get it right ..... and maybe they did ...... but didn't check that it had been done properly When it ran into a bit of a head sea and started to pitch the front (patio doors) burst open ..... from the inside !!! out came a huge American style fridge freezer and a hot tub. Obviously they had not been well secured and as soon as the barge began to pitch they broke free (One has to ask ..... had they been fixed down at all !!) Once the seas went through the front door it became unstable (no internal compartments) and was too dangerous (near capsize) to put people on board to attempt to pump out. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 12:24:09 GMT
One thing is sure in this sinking, they were not, or only very badly prepared for this sea-crossing. I have my doubts about the experience of the people involved, the seas, and the crossing of them, are often much under-estimated. Peter. Someone I know had a barge sink that he was towing. It had been prepared by the owner to the recommendations of the MCA and passed by them as fit to be towed.It was totally sealed and the tug firm had nothing to do with it. You would expect the MCA to get it right ..... and maybe they did ...... but didn't check that it had been done properly When it ran into a bit of a head sea and started to pitch the front (patio doors) burst open ..... from the inside !!! out came a huge American style fridge freezer and a hot tub. Obviously they had not been well secured and as soon as the barge began to pitch they broke free (One has to ask ..... had they been fixed down at all !!) Once the seas went through the front door it became unstable (no internal compartments) and was too dangerous (near capsize) to put people on board to attempt to pump out. I'm intrigued by the words "barge" and "patio doors" being in the same text. Was it this pile of shite John ? Eta warning to anyone worried about mobile data consumption - its a catastrophically boring video clip where nothing remotely interesting happens  |
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Post by bargemast on May 27, 2018 14:22:25 GMT
One thing is sure in this sinking, they were not, or only very badly prepared for this sea-crossing. I have my doubts about the experience of the people involved, the seas, and the crossing of them, are often much under-estimated. Peter. Someone I know had a barge sink that he was towing. It had been prepared by the owner to the recommendations of the MCA and passed by them as fit to be towed.It was totally sealed and the tug firm had nothing to do with it. You would expect the MCA to get it right ..... and maybe they did ...... but didn't check that it had been done properly When it ran into a bit of a head sea and started to pitch the front (patio doors) burst open ..... from the inside !!! out came a huge American style fridge freezer and a hot tub. Obviously they had not been well secured and as soon as the barge began to pitch they broke free (One has to ask ..... had they been fixed down at all !!) Once the seas went through the front door it became unstable (no internal compartments) and was too dangerous (near capsize) to put people on board to attempt to pump out. It must be pretty terrible for the tugs captain to see his tow sinking without being able to do something about it.
My only personal experiences with towing were in a long gone past towing houseboats in- and around Amsterdam to boatyards behind one of the smallish pusher-tugs I owned.
Only once did I go on a more adventures tow trip with a friend on his bigger tug, a long long time ago, were he had to tow a barge from Amsterdam over the IJsselmeer, which can be very tricky sometimes
The towed barge had been inspected for the trip by it's insurance, and given their written autorisation, but evenso before we left my friend insisted in inspecting the barge himself too, as from the moment on you start towing, you're responsible for the duration of the trip for your tow.
He discoverd that some heavy furniture wasn't secured, because it's owner and the guy from the insurance thought that because of their weight they wouldn't go anywhere. My friend insisted that everything was strongly secured against any possible movements, which worked ou a couple of hours later to have been very neccessary, as the barge was badly rolling and pitching behind us, and we were overly happy to have arrived safely with the tow still afloat at our destination, that could otherwise have easily finished much differently.
Peter.
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Post by JohnV on May 27, 2018 18:45:34 GMT
Someone I know had a barge sink that he was towing. It had been prepared by the owner to the recommendations of the MCA and passed by them as fit to be towed.It was totally sealed and the tug firm had nothing to do with it. You would expect the MCA to get it right ..... and maybe they did ...... but didn't check that it had been done properly When it ran into a bit of a head sea and started to pitch the front (patio doors) burst open ..... from the inside !!! out came a huge American style fridge freezer and a hot tub. Obviously they had not been well secured and as soon as the barge began to pitch they broke free (One has to ask ..... had they been fixed down at all !!) Once the seas went through the front door it became unstable (no internal compartments) and was too dangerous (near capsize) to put people on board to attempt to pump out. I'm intrigued by the words "barge" and "patio doors" being in the same text. Was it this pile of shite John ? I can't be 100% certain Andrew, but I think it was ..... as you put it that "pile of shite" absolutely .... low freeboard, rectangular barge/pontoon with a house on top .... right area... right approx date .... and it looks like a hot tub drifting down the channel near the end  |
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