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Post by rockdodger on Sept 24, 2018 11:37:23 GMT
no idea foxy. it's only happened end of last week. I'm sure the truth will come out. ayvthe moment I think they have priorities set at sorting out somewhere for him to live. a lot of the great unwashed of the West end of the K&A are rallying to help. he seems to be a popular person. Thanks for the updates - it will be most interesting reading the full account of what transpired, especially as there appears to be video footage of the incident.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 24, 2018 14:17:01 GMT
a lot of the great unwashed of the West end of the K&A are rallying to help. he seems to be a popular person. I'm sure I've seen him in a Youtube video.... can't find it right now, have to entertain granddaughter for a while.... will look later unless someone else beats me to it.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 24, 2018 14:18:54 GMT
no idea foxy. it's only happened end of last week. I'm sure the truth will come out. ayvthe moment I think they have priorities set at sorting out somewhere for him to live. a lot of the great unwashed of the West end of the K&A are rallying to help. he seems to be a popular person. Thanks for the updates - it will be most interesting reading the full account of what transpired....... ...what I remember reading is that his boat "is sinking" - and what's this all about, a boat goes past too fast and his boat starts sinking because of it? I wonder if his insurance company has demanded a hull survey every 5 years like mine has just sprung on us.....
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Post by thebfg on Sept 24, 2018 15:00:22 GMT
no idea foxy. it's only happened end of last week. I'm sure the truth will come out. ayvthe moment I think they have priorities set at sorting out somewhere for him to live. a lot of the great unwashed of the West end of the K&A are rallying to help. he seems to be a popular person. Thanks for the updates - it will be most interesting reading the full account of what transpired, especially as there appears to be video footage of the incident. eye witness account. dru-withoutamap.blogspot.com/2018/09/a-sinking.html?m=1I feel ABC won't get too involved. shame it would be a great PR excercise.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 24, 2018 15:03:30 GMT
Here's George, at 3:38 -> 3:59, 6:25 -> 6:50, 7:36 -> 7:55, 9:37 -> 9:57
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 24, 2018 15:12:22 GMT
Thanks for the updates - it will be most interesting reading the full account of what transpired, especially as there appears to be video footage of the incident. eye witness account. dru-withoutamap.blogspot.com/2018/09/a-sinking.html?m=1I feel ABC won't get too involved. shame it would be a great PR excercise. After reading that, my inclination is to sue the hire company for letting these Hooray Henries wreak damage and hurl abuse. I think these oiks should be found and have red hot mooring pins banged right through their skulls. Skewer them to the towpath as a warning to other Eton-schooled pig-molesters. On the side of the hippies this time - provided they have bought their own CRT licences with their own money that they have earned themselves.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 24, 2018 17:12:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 18:15:46 GMT
no.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 18:18:42 GMT
Too silly. Unless the hire boat collided with the vessel it did not cause it to sink. Its not possible unless the vessel was ready to sink anyway.
Asking for qualified skippers on hire boats with single sex groups? I suppose that's a possibility but all this sort of ridiculous story does is give more ammunition for crt to eventually get rid of towpath dwellers once and for all.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 24, 2018 18:48:07 GMT
your probaly right.
I beleive it bounced up and down on the shelve.
I'm not sure where I sit to be honest
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 19:03:49 GMT
The boat hadn't sunk until the 'interaction' with the hire boats, so a little unfair to blame the boater.
The boat at Clifton hadn't sunk, until a tree fell on it. Fortunately the yard were able to lift the tree off before it sunk but it was taking on water upto that point.
I understand the two boats were filmed in their erratic behaviour.
We recently met a hire boat with a mixed group of young men and women on board (5 or 6 of each).
Three of the men were barely able to stand, and on the boat roof as it rose up in a lock, so not exclusively stag or hen parties.
Sadly hire companies will always take the money (who can blame them) but it doesn't alter the fact that the behaviour of some hirers is appalling.
I can't see that much can be done about it, and to be honest I've also seen bad behaviour on private boats too.
Rog
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 24, 2018 19:20:14 GMT
Too silly. Unless the hire boat collided with the vessel it did not cause it to sink. Its not possible unless the vessel was ready to sink anyway. Agree with this. My mooring is on the busiest part of the network, and speeding hire (and private) boaters come past me all day, every day. From reading the account it seems far more likely that the owner of a basket case of a boat has found a peg on which to hang the coat and is looking for the standard "compo".
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 19:30:41 GMT
your probaly right. I beleive it bounced up and down on the shelve. I'm not sure where I sit to be honest The k&A does have some slightly unusual below-waterline canal bank edges. I believe this was to do with water voles and preservation societies getting involved in the restoration and reopening of the canal. The edge of the canal bank was built just below the waterline in some places to facilitate water voles. On the one occasion I went down to bath and spent the winter on the western K&A (2001/2002) I was told that you are not meant to moor to these particular canal banks. I'm not sure if it was BW advice at the time but it did look pretty dodgy. If you moored there it would be dodgy for the water voles and for the boaters. If someone did moor in such a way that the counter was over this edging and a boat did go past fast and it had some hull openings and etc and tipped over and and and then yes it could sink. Or it might be a sinker anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 19:30:50 GMT
I didn't realise you and mm witnessed the incident.
Obviously I can't argue with you that neither boat made any contact, or in anyway caused the boat to sink, because I'm only basing my views on the various accounts I've read so far.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2018 19:36:09 GMT
To clarify I was not personally present I am just going on what my MI5 colleagues told me based on what they picked up with their new pigeon drones which have been active in that area.
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