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Post by quaysider on Sept 21, 2018 6:21:40 GMT
Morning good people,
Today we find ourselves trapped in Mirfield with a crt notice saying "flood gates closed until further notice due to rising river levels" - WITH customers on who (whom?) have trains to catch tomorrow morning from Wakey.
From memory, whilst the flood gates - certainly at Stanley and the river near the hepworth CAN be operated manually and I know there are usable lock landings there, we're NOT so sure about the bit downstream from Shepley bridge back to broad cut.
The indicator boards are NOT yet in the red so in theory we COULD head off - what concerns me ... more so than if it were just us on board, is whether all the gates have accessible means of landing downstream of here and perhaps, whether due to the stoppage notice issued last night by crt, we'd be taking an unnecessary insurance risk.
I'm sure one of you good folk will have experience of doing this and would really appreciate a bit of guidance .
thanks muchly,
Ginge.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 21, 2018 6:37:46 GMT
I thought there was a drought and half the canals were closed, with gates ashed up on the Leeds & Liverpool & Rochdale?
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 21, 2018 6:41:05 GMT
From Date: 20th September 2018 at 18:00 To Date: until further notice
Type:Navigation Closure Reason:
Due to rising water levels the flood locks on the Calder & Hebble Navigation have been closed.
We will update this notice when the situation changes.
Location:
Calder & Hebble NavigationStarts At:Lock 13, Anchor Pit Flood LockEnds At:Flood Lock, Wakefield
Sounds all very High Drama! Where's all this water suddenly come from? Is the Leeds & Liverpool from Wigan to Gargrave re-opened?
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Post by quaysider on Sept 21, 2018 6:50:09 GMT
nope but it IS open now from Leeds to Gargrave again... subject to "time restrictions" - the cruise after next have been moved from Marple to Wolverhampton to Leeds/Skipton and return... fecking pain.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 21, 2018 6:56:00 GMT
So - there's not enough water, yet there's too much....... ?
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Post by Gone on Sept 21, 2018 6:58:36 GMT
Morning good people, Today we find ourselves trapped in Mirfield with a crt notice saying "flood gates closed until further notice due to rising river levels" - WITH customers on who (whom?) have trains to catch tomorrow morning from Wakey. From memory, whilst the flood gates - certainly at Stanley and the river near the hepworth CAN be operated manually and I know there are usable lock landings there, we're NOT so sure about the bit downstream from Shepley bridge back to broad cut. The indicator boards are NOT yet in the red so in theory we COULD head off - what concerns me ... more so than if it were just us on board, is whether all the gates have accessible means of landing downstream of here and perhaps, whether due to the stoppage notice issued last night by crt, we'd be taking an unnecessary insurance risk. I'm sure one of you good folk will have experience of doing this and would really appreciate a bit of guidance . thanks muchly, Ginge. Give CRT a call as it’s not clear from your post if they have closed the navigation in which case best you don’t proceed or if they are simply letting you know that you will need to open and close the flood gates if you wish to pass. |
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Post by TonyDunkley on Sept 21, 2018 7:42:31 GMT
Morning good people, Today we find ourselves trapped in Mirfield with a crt notice saying "flood gates closed until further notice due to rising river levels" - WITH customers on who (whom?) have trains to catch tomorrow morning from Wakey. From memory, whilst the flood gates - certainly at Stanley and the river near the hepworth CAN be operated manually and I know there are usable lock landings there, we're NOT so sure about the bit downstream from Shepley bridge back to broad cut. The indicator boards are NOT yet in the red so in theory we COULD head off - what concerns me ... more so than if it were just us on board, is whether all the gates have accessible means of landing downstream of here and perhaps, whether due to the stoppage notice issued last night by crt, we'd be taking an unnecessary insurance risk. I'm sure one of you good folk will have experience of doing this and would really appreciate a bit of guidance . thanks muchly, Ginge. It's donkey's years since I was last round that neck of the woods, but I think there's a set of flood gates, as opposed to a flood lock, not far downriver from Mirfield, then a couple of flood locks from there to Wakefield. You can work flood locks with a few feet of fresh on, but if I'm right about those gates at the end of the first stretch of river from Mirfield and C&RT have put them 'on', then you'll be stuck there until the river drops enough for them to get them 'off' again. |
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Post by quaysider on Sept 21, 2018 13:27:31 GMT
Thanks guys - the notice says navigation closed... from memory, some of the flood locks USED to have 2 sets of gates so you could work them - but (as is the case for Thornes) the 2nd gates have now been replaced by the "fake" planked gap filler that doesn't move - ergo, we'd not be able to get off the river until the level has dropped and crt re-open them I think... NOT really progress is it? grrrr..
I've booked a cab for them to get back to Wakey to meet their train connections tomorrow now - talk about a rough first year lol.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 21, 2018 13:49:20 GMT
I thought flood gates were like locks, open normally but closed when the river is high, but that they then work as a lock. ?
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Post by peterboat on Sept 21, 2018 14:16:40 GMT
I thought flood gates were like locks, open normally but closed when the river is high, but that they then work as a lock. ? No Foxy you do get gates like at Goole just one set to protect in case of flood or breach. There are flood locks about as you have seen and you get locks with two sets of gates at one end to protect against flood [normally on lock entrances to rivers] |
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Post by TonyDunkley on Sept 21, 2018 14:19:46 GMT
I thought flood gates were like locks, open normally but closed when the river is high, but that they then work as a lock. ? Not if there's only one set of gates where there should be two ! Flood Gates (ie one pair of gates) close the navigation when they're 'on', . . . Flood Locks (ie a pair of gates at each end of a chamber) don't close the navigation when they're 'on'. |
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 21, 2018 14:56:24 GMT
So where's all this water coming from, then? Has it been raining in England?
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Post by quaysider on Sept 21, 2018 15:22:54 GMT
So where's all this water coming from, then? Has it been raining in England? er just a bit... yesterday, Sheffield had a months rain in one day! |
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Post by pearley on Sept 21, 2018 15:37:20 GMT
I don't know about usable lock landings at the flood locks. A few years ago we came downstream from Brighouse with the indicator in the green. Anchor Pit flood lock had one hate open, the other swinging with the wind. Not a problem but Cooper Bridge flood lock with told gates firmly closed. No lock landing, just a ladder on the inside of the curved approach to the lock. So you have to try and nose up to the ladder whilst the stream going off to the wier is trying to pull you away.
I walked to the next flood gate before leaving Cooper Bridge to make sure the next flood gate was open, it was but again swinging in the wing because the retaining chain was broken.
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Post by Jim on Sept 21, 2018 16:38:40 GMT
I've been stuck a couple of times, once 3 nights on kirklees cut. Had to walk into Cooper Bridge for supplies. We were headed for Huddersfield so it was frustrating, though I suppose we could have got in at Cooper Bridge cos it's a flood lock, going uphill. Didn't want to risk it cos the weir is close by. I've set off from Brighouse with boards on green to find Anchor Pit flood gates shut, with a small difference in levels. Used a small engine hoist wire winch to open the gates. Same going upstream out of Mirfield once. We came down to Wakey on the train, found that there's a fast connection, once an hour there's a direct train from Mirfield to Wakey, takes 15 mins. We are flood locked at Lemonroyd at the moment, contemplating whether to sit it out or go home for a couple of days, train from Woodlesford. River is 2ft on the red, see the shot of the weir. We are heading home as soon as we can, so our paths should cross quaysider.   |
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