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Post by JohnV on Oct 13, 2018 10:35:36 GMT
Just bought some smokeless fuel from Aldi (£3.99 10Kg)
Not used it before and it is not my main heating just part of the "just in case" supplies so providing it burns and provides warmth it will do.
Has anyone used any of it yet? .....or will I have to light the rayburn over the next couple of days to try it out. (it's really a bit too warm at the moment for heating)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 14:44:22 GMT
I’ve had coal from Aldi a couple of winters ago, was crap to be honest, the stuff from b&m was better for the money
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Post by patty on Oct 13, 2018 16:57:20 GMT
I like the smokeless fuel if its the stuff in the yellow bags,..I get mine from b and m..it burns well, hot and not much waste....use it on he multifuel in lounge and occasionally on Rayburn if it needs a boost. Letting Rayburn go out so I can repair it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 17:40:26 GMT
I have not used Aldi smokeless but i think it might be the same as Brazier which I have used for primary heating for 3 years. Its ok not amazing I just love the 10kg bags. Also £4 for 10k.
This is From DEFRA website
ALDI Winter Flame Smokeless Fuel Manufacturer Coal Products Limited at Immingham Briquetting Works, Immingham, North East Lincolnshire (a) comprise anthracite (as to approximately 60 to 80% of the total weight), petroleum coke (as to approximately 10 to 30% of the total weight) and a molasses and phosphoric acid binder (as to the remaining weight) (b) were manufactured from those constituents by a process involving roll-pressing and heat treatment at about 300°C (c) are either unmarked pillow-shaped briquettes or, pillow-shaped briquettes marked with a single indented line running longitudinally along each face, off-set from its counterpart by 10 millimetres (d) have an average weight of either 55 or 80 grams per briquette (e) have a sulphur content not exceeding 2% of the total weight on a dry basis. England Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 3) 01/01/2016 Wales Status Date first authorised Authorised (SI 2016 No. 812)
----- ALDI Winter Flame Smokeless Fuel Manufacturer Coal Products Limited at Immingham Briquetting Works, Immingham, North East Lincolnshire (a) comprise anthracite fines (as to approximately 60 to 80% of the total weight), petroleum coke (as to approximately 10 to 30% of the total weight), bituminous coal (as to approximately 0 to 17% of the total weight) and molasses/acid or an organic binder (as the remaining weight); (b) were manufactured from those constituents by a process involving roll-pressing and heat treatment of up to 300°C; (c) are either unmarked pillow-shaped briquettes or, pillow-shaped briquettes marked with a single indented line running longitudinally along each face, off-set from its counterpart by 10 millimetres (d) have an average weight of 55 or 80 grams per briquette; and (e) have a sulphur content not exceeding 2% of the total weight. England Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 3) 01/09/2017 Wales Status Date first authorised No n/a Scotland Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 5) 01/10/2017 N. Ireland Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 7) 01/10/2017
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Brazier briquettes Manufacturer Coal Products Limited at Immingham Briquetting Works, Immingham, North East Lincolnshire (a) comprise anthracite (as to approximately 60 to 80% of the total weight), petroleum coke (as to approximately 10 to 30% of the total weight) and a molasses and phosphoric acid binder (as to the remaining weight) (b) were manufactured from those constituents by a process involving roll-pressing and heat treatment at about 300°C (c) are either unmarked pillow-shaped briquettes or, pillow-shaped briquettes marked with a single indented line running longitudinally along each face, off-set from its counterpart by 10 millimetres (d) have an average weight of either 55 or 80 grams per briquette (e) have a sulphur content not exceeding 2% of the total weight on a dry basis. England Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 2) See Footnotes or SI Link Wales Status Date first authorised Authorised (SI 2015 No. 1517) See Footnotes or SI Link Scotland Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 4) See Footnotes or SI Link N. Ireland Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 6) See Footnotes or SI Link ----
Brazier briquettes Manufacturer Coal Products Limited at Immingham Briquetting Works, Immingham, North East Lincolnshire (a) comprise anthracite fines (as to approximately 60 to 80% of the total weight), petroleum coke (as to approximately 10 to 30% of the total weight), bituminous coal (as to approximately 0 to 17% of the total weight) and molasses/acid or an organic binder (as the remaining weight); (b) were manufactured from those constituents by a process involving roll-pressing and heat treatment of up to 300°C; (c) are either unmarked pillow-shaped briquettes or, pillow-shaped briquettes marked with a single indented line running longitudinally along each face, off-set from its counterpart by 10 millimetres (d) have an average weight of 55 or 80 grams per briquette; and (e) have a sulphur content not exceeding 2% of the total weight. England Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 3) 01/09/2017 Wales Status Date first authorised No n/a Scotland Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 5) 01/10/2017 N. Ireland Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 7) 01/10/2017
There are two subtly different forms of the same product.I'm not quite sure why but the details line up with both the entries for Brazier and both the entries for Aldi.
One has pet coke (hot and smelly less ash) the other has some bit coal (less heat and smell more ash). That's what I reckon anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 17:48:05 GMT
Brazier is better than the Aldi stuff, can get it from wickes as well as b&m for the same price if you buy three bags I think.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2018 17:51:04 GMT
That's interesting because on paper they are the same products from the same manufacturer. I suppose it depends which one you end up with.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 9:03:04 GMT
I’m basing it on bags bought a couple of winters ago.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 14, 2018 11:06:07 GMT
We bought a bag of Excel from coalboat Halsall this morning. Better than giving money to Aldi (nasty Germans) and B&M which is some kind of disease spread across the country, cheap labour and cheap rubbish for sale.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 14, 2018 11:09:47 GMT
Just 1 star for B&M: Birmingham, Minworth store routinely stocks out of date Smiths crisps on their shelves without consumer warning & when challenged replied with "we can sell them for a month after their use by date!" uk.trustpilot.com/review/bmstores.co.uk
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Post by duncan on Oct 14, 2018 12:22:52 GMT
I’ve had coal from Aldi a couple of winters ago, was crap to be honest, the stuff from b&m was better for the money Yes, B&M stuff burns well;
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Post by JohnV on Oct 14, 2018 12:25:56 GMT
Tried some of the Aldi stuff last night .... hard to get it going and smelly and smokey at first but once a good bank was going it was fine. Obviously not as good as the anthracite I got when using the Rayburn all the time. (that is not the easiest fuel to light either)
The Aldi stuff is fine for what I want, which is just some fuel to keep in case of emergency.
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Post by JohnV on Oct 14, 2018 12:27:45 GMT
I’ve had coal from Aldi a couple of winters ago, was crap to be honest, the stuff from b&m was better for the money Yes, B&M stuff burns well;
just read the link
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 13:52:40 GMT
Apparently the B&M bargains fuel is called "Blaze" however this product name is not on the DEFRA list of authorised smokeless fuels smokecontrol.defra.gov.uk/fuels.php?country=englandEta I see from image search it is "Newflame". Ideal for recently divorced people I guess. Probably the first of these two. Is it the small "eggs" or the larger "ovals"? I did see some stuff at a B&M but I thought it was brazier like home bargains stock. Fuel name Newflame briquettes Manufacturer Maxibrite Limited at Llantrisant, Rhondda Cynon Taf, South Wales (a) comprise anthracite fines (as to approximately 84% of the total weight), petroleum coke (as to approximately 12% of the total weight) and starch as binder (as to the remaining weight) (b) were manufactured from those constituents by a process involving roll-pressing and heat treatment at about 260°C (c) are unmarked pillow-shaped briquettes (d) have an average weight of 78 grams per briquette (e) have a sulphur content not exceeding 2% of the total weight. England Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 2) See Footnotes or SI Link Wales Status Date first authorised Authorised (SI 2015 No. 1517) See Footnotes or SI Link Scotland Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 4) See Footnotes or SI Link N. Ireland Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 6) See Footnotes or SI Link ------ Fuel name Newflame Plus Briquettes Manufacturer Maxibrite Limited at Mwyndy Industrial Estate, Llantrisant, Mid Glamorgan, South Wales (a) Comprise of bituminous coal and petroleum coke (each as to approximately 10 to 15% of the total weight) and anthracite duff and cold setting binder (as to the remaining weight) (b) Are manufactured from those constituents by a process involving roll pressing and cold curing (c) Are unmarked pillow-shaped briquettes that are approximately 68 millimetres in length, 63 millimetres in width and 38 millimetres in height (d) Have an average weight of 110 grams per briquette (e) Have a sulphur content not exceeding 1.9% on a dry basis England Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 3) 01/01/2018 Wales Status Date first authorised No n/a Scotland Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 5) 01/01/2018 N. Ireland Status Date first authorised Authorised (Footnote 7) 01/01/2018 -------
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Post by tadworth on Oct 18, 2018 1:02:31 GMT
Brazier is shite and a waste of money, its not an economy fuel because you get far less heat out of it compared to a quality product, and you will have to burn an entire 10 kilo bag every night.
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Post by JohnV on Oct 18, 2018 4:55:14 GMT
Brazier is shite and a waste of money, its not an economy fuel because you get far less heat out of it compared to a quality product, and you will have to burn an entire 10 kilo bag every night. get through more than that in anthracite in cold weather ..... the Rayburn is not that efficient but it does run a couple of radiators and heat the water and an area about two and a half times the size of a narrow boat Burned a couple of bags of the Aldi stuff now, it's pretty low grade fuel but doesn't produce too much ash and will stay in all night in the Rayburn which many other fuels won't. I would rate it as poor from the difficulty in lighting, although the lot I bought was very wet which may be how it was stored. (I don't have accurate scales to check the weight after it is dried out so can't comment on the water content/weight) From the heat output I would class it as poor to medium as I had trouble getting the oven temperature up to a high enough level for roasting. (can have this problem with house coal sometimes if the grade is low) From the lack residue I would class it as medium to good, with no clinker or lumps (a downside of some of the imported anthracite ..... the Welsh stuff is far superior) From the ability to keep the stove in overnight as medium My take is that it is reasonable value for money especially when some of the offerings from other stores/forecourts are half as much again.
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