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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 17:39:50 GMT
It's only an effort to get people to attempt to save a life. Some can be scared, squimish, unsure of the correct ratio of breaths to compressions naughtyfox couldn't get it right, he'd be more like blowing a balloon up at 2:2 than giving life saving CPR! There is also the issue of mouth to mouth where the casualty may have blood vomit etc in there mouth, I carry a face shield in both cars for this reason. I am quite proud of being a properly trained first aider, I'm also bloody grateful that so far the worst I've dealt with is a feinting episode and the usual minor industrial injuries! The reason behind re qualification is to keep the skills and knowledge up to scratch, particularly where little used. An added bonus is a couple of days out of the factory/office and some good tea and biscuits thrown in We did 20 hours a year apart from when the ambulance strike was on, when we did one weeks intensive training, the NHS trainer was surprised how good we were, I have done CPR 3 times once after a traffic accident successfully once after a mate was shot in the Falklands again successful and once in a workplace where I knew he was a gonner but once you start you continue until pronounced dead. I have done first aid more times than I can remember at traffic accidents all you have to do is remember the 4 Bs and all will go well [or it has for me] What you have to remember Gazza is you are that persons best chance and let training take over Iām only a mere whipper snapper at it so far, I do tease Mrs Gazza that so far my training has totalled 9 days and I can put a dressing on someone, tie a sling, do cpr, make tea and toast, put a person in the recovery position and call for more qualified help when the shit hits the fan just the same as nurses who spent 3+ years at uni learning the same skill set š Funnily enough she calls me all sorts of rude names when I point that out to her š§
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Post by twbm2 on Nov 6, 2018 19:29:55 GMT
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Post by peterboat on Nov 6, 2018 21:00:14 GMT
We did 20 hours a year apart from when the ambulance strike was on, when we did one weeks intensive training, the NHS trainer was surprised how good we were, I have done CPR 3 times once after a traffic accident successfully once after a mate was shot in the Falklands again successful and once in a workplace where I knew he was a gonner but once you start you continue until pronounced dead. I have done first aid more times than I can remember at traffic accidents all you have to do is remember the 4 Bs and all will go well [or it has for me] What you have to remember Gazza is you are that persons best chance and let training take over Iām only a mere whipper snapper at it so far, I do tease Mrs Gazza that so far my training has totalled 9 days and I can put a dressing on someone, tie a sling, do cpr, make tea and toast, put a person in the recovery position and call for more qualified help when the shit hits the fan just the same as nurses who spent 3+ years at uni learning the same skill set š Funnily enough she calls me all sorts of rude names when I point that out to her š§ I started at 16 as a junior we did it weekly then, out of training I for the first 4 years did lots of training for lots of things then it was 20 hours a year until I finished first aid in a nuclear chemical environment is a blast to say the least
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Post by kris on Nov 7, 2018 8:27:48 GMT
it's definately a possibility.
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Post by kris on Nov 7, 2018 16:01:16 GMT
I suppose I could always contact Pluto through pm see if he knows?
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Post by pluto on Nov 10, 2018 15:04:51 GMT
It is almost certainly off a boat which worked in the Trent and/or Humber area, including keels/sloops, though dumb barges also had similar rudders. Difficult to be more exact without dimensions, as the overall depth of the hull could cut down the options.
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Post by kris on Nov 10, 2018 15:21:12 GMT
It is almost certainly off a boat which worked in the Trent and/or Humber area, including keels/sloops, though dumb barges also had similar rudders. Difficult to be more exact without dimensions, as the overall depth of the hull could cut down the options. Thanks very much for the reply Mike, what dimensions would you need to be more exact? I will be there tmw, as it's good place for a Sunday lunch drink so could measure it while I'm there.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Nov 10, 2018 19:01:21 GMT
All that can be said with certainty is that it's off a round-sterned Yorkshire barge built for trading on the Humber, Trent, Ouse, Fossdyke, Aire & Calder, Sheffield and Dearne & Dove canals, etc. etc. - that has been motorized at some point in it's life.
As Pluto/Mike says it could have been a keel (square rigged), a sloop (fore and aft rigged), or a dumb-boat. All of them had the same hull form with a surprisingly fine, clean run under the round, tubby looking sterns and the same sort of rudders, so there's no way of knowing from the rudder itself without seeing the barge that went with it. Statistically, and from it's size/depth in comparison with the height of that standard doorway it's next to, there's the best chance it came off a Sheffield-size boat, as they were the most numerous - Trent-size and Lincoln-size came next numerically, and were a bit shallower in the hull with a correspondingly shorter sternpost. It would have hung from the stern of whatever it was on with a one piece pintle bar dropped in from the top and passing through the gudgins (eyes) on the rudder and the boat's sternpost.
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Post by kris on Nov 14, 2018 14:11:31 GMT
Thanks a lot to every one who replied, even those who are more interested in the defibrillator. So it looks more than likely that it's from a Sheffield class boat. It would be good to find a photo of one similar on a boat. I'm really happy that it's had a new lease of life.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 14:16:21 GMT
Thanks a lot to every one who replied, even those who are more interested in the defibrillator. So it looks more than likely that it's from a Sheffield class boat. It would be good to find a photo of one similar on a boat. I'm really happy that it's had a new lease of life. And very smart it looks too in its new home š»š¢š
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Post by kris on Nov 14, 2018 14:24:23 GMT
Thanks a lot to every one who replied, even those who are more interested in the defibrillator. So it looks more than likely that it's from a Sheffield class boat. It would be good to find a photo of one similar on a boat. I'm really happy that it's had a new lease of life. And very smart it looks too in its new home š»š¢š I tend to agree,it's good as well because around this neck of the woods it tends to be narrowboats or modern widebeams. So it reminds boaters around here that there are other types of boat.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 14:55:54 GMT
Southcliffe ? Image from the superb Deuchars barges site That's has a one piece pintle bar as described by TD. I must say I originally thought "humber keel" but mistakenly believed someone had said it was not from a northern barge.
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Post by kris on Nov 14, 2018 16:43:50 GMT
Southcliffe ? Image from the superb Deuchars barges site That's has a one piece pintle bar as described by TD. I must say I originally thought "humber keel" but mistakenly believed someone had said it was not from a northern barge. That's a good photo, but I think one with out the chain steering addition would be better, but I was only thinking out loud really.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 18:11:15 GMT
Hen ? From alanpease Looks fairly similar.
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