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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 19:46:39 GMT
I completed my motorway driving speed awareness course this afternoon. Dodged a bullet (three points) by giving up four hours and Β£84. Some interesting information on the new smart motorways, so not a waste of time. Also it means I can keep my paper licence and don't have to buy an upgrade. They say it takes a fool to make the same mistake twice ... I intend to be very sensible Rog
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Post by Andyberg on Nov 30, 2018 21:17:55 GMT
I completed my motorway driving speed awareness course this afternoon. Dodged a bullet (three points) by giving up four hours and Β£84. Some interesting information on the new smart motorways, so not a waste of time. Also it means I can keep my paper licence and don't have to buy an upgrade. They say it takes a fool to make the same mistake twice ... I intend to be very sensible Rog Iβve got my course on 18 Dec from my misdenemour in October on the way to visit my daughter through Kirkby Stephen... Exciting timesπ
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Post by patty on Dec 1, 2018 7:57:02 GMT
I'm about to moosey on down the motorway again ..I have noticed an increase in our boys in blue during these past months... So not only are there these speed cameras/average speed areas but also physical presence.. It has curtailed most go faster moments
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 1, 2018 7:57:08 GMT
I completed my motorway driving speed awareness course this afternoon. I forget what you did. So whatever it was, couldn't have been all that dangerous. I mean, you didn't even make it into the Daily Mail. When I was teaching my kids to drive (about 13 and 8 years ago) there was already so much helpful material on the Internet - driving tests from many countries that you could playfully take on-line (theory tests). Nowadays, I would find YouTube videos such as 'UK car crashes' a good teaching aid, for analysing situations and thinking about how to avoid getting into them in the first place. In Britain there are a lot of nutters who shouldn't be on the roads at all. In defence of Finns, I'd give 8/10 for their driving manners all round, it's a safe country to drive in (unlike Poland which has 3 times more accidents than other European countries). "Around 2,800 people died and 11,000 were severely injured in road accidents in Poland in 2017, putting Poland close to the bottom of a European Union ranking on road safety." www.thenews.pl/1/11/Artykul/371285,Road-death-toll-in-Poland-among-highest-in-EU-EC-stats
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Post by JohnV on Dec 1, 2018 8:14:34 GMT
I suppose I am very lucky, my go faster moments were pre speed camera days, when the Old Bill were inclined to take a more lenient vie, providing the road conditions were suitable and the only neck being risked was your own. Fast bikes in my youth would rings round plod mobiles ...... that's why they purchased a few of the coolest police cars ever daimler_sp250_1 by mudlarker2, on Flickr and it was a genuine Police car !!! fdd8ac949b7f7246ff689f880b62eacb--fuzz-police-vehicles by mudlarker2, on Flickr
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Post by Clinton Cool on Dec 1, 2018 8:27:52 GMT
It seems that 'speed awareness courses' are all about duping people into thinking that speed limits are good, they are about saving people's lives. If this were true, then narrow unlit country lanes would not have the national speed limit of 60 applied to them. 30 would be more appropriate, they are dangerous roads often with blind bends, pinch points, debris on the road and other dangers.
I might do 35 to 40 in a 30 limit sometimes, when it's dry and quiet and bright, when it's perfectly safe to do so. That's the extent of my speeding. If by chance I get caught I'll pay my fine and take my points. The last thing I want is to spend a day listening to some prick in a high viz jacket who probably has some worthless degree in 'modern traffic management' or something, trying to preach to someone who's managed to stay alive despite a lifetime of riding motor bikes on Britain's roads.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 8:44:51 GMT
I am no speedster, sorry to disappoint. I was clocked doing 58mph in a 50mph stretch of the M1 near Nottingham. I didn't consciously elect to do 58mph, but merely maintained the traffic flow, in the left hand lane, keeping a safe distance from the car in front. Still guilty. Had my licence 44 years without any issue, so in my view worth doing the course to avoid the points (and in my case having also to pay to upgrade my old green paper licence). The two people taking the course were jolly pleasant ... some of the participants not so. Rog ETA It's not so bad Andy. I just kept my head down, listened and kept shtum. Some of the comments of other participants were priceless
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Post by Clinton Cool on Dec 1, 2018 8:54:08 GMT
So if the speed you were doing was safe in the circumstances and ambient road conditions you were guilty of precisely nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 8:59:04 GMT
The imposed limit was 50mph, and I was over it. Very little traffic law is based in moral right or wrong, which is what causes the disputes I suspect. In 44 years of driving this was the first time I was caught. I'm fairly confident that like every other driver, it's not the first time I've drifted over the limit. I had a good run Rog
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Post by Clinton Cool on Dec 1, 2018 9:03:04 GMT
Well it's good that you can be philosophical about it. Personally I disregard speed limits completely, preferring to stay alive over staying within what is a very blunt edged law.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 9:07:37 GMT
I choose not to be angry. I also choose not to be caught again, so slower journeys are on the cards Rog
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 1, 2018 9:26:26 GMT
Yet if the Police wanted to make piles of dosh very quickly, all they have to do is put a man on a motorway bridge with a speed camera pointing down to the 3rd 'fast' lane - 99 out of 100 cars in that lane are speeding! Why don't they do this?
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Post by thebfg on Dec 1, 2018 9:44:26 GMT
because speeding on the motorway is generally not dangerous. not many people die on the motorway.
as Rog recently learned there are not many vulnerable road users, that is why more people die on roads with lower speed limits.
it's not the driver that generally dies but the pedestrian or the cyclist that gets squashed.
Patty, it's the season of drunk/drug driving crackdowns so police will be out in numbers
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Post by Andyberg on Dec 1, 2018 10:06:22 GMT
Yet if the Police wanted to make piles of dosh very quickly, all they have to do is put a man on a motorway bridge with a speed camera pointing down to the 3rd 'fast' lane - 99 out of 100 cars in that lane are speeding! Why don't they do this? They do! (And thereβs no such thing as a βfastβ lane!π)
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 1, 2018 10:14:47 GMT
That's why I put the rabbit ears 'o' Then there's the question of why this heap of shit hasn't been hauled out of the canal... BSS? Insurance? Certainly no current licence displayed!
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