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Post by kris on Jul 21, 2016 10:51:34 GMT
Yea no worries Peter I'll do that when I get home. You've caught me before Ive used it so it's okay.
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Post by JohnV on Jul 21, 2016 11:14:45 GMT
Phew !!!!! thank gawd fer small mercies
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Post by kris on Jul 21, 2016 15:47:28 GMT
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Post by bills on Jul 21, 2016 16:00:00 GMT
Now I don't know the first thing about composting loos, but to me, that looks remarkably like a bucket.
Edited to say - well 2 buckets, one with a lid.
Edited again to ask (fascinatedly) - why does it have a separate pee hole and arse hole leading into the bucket?
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Post by kris on Jul 21, 2016 16:10:18 GMT
That's the clever bit bill you seperate the liquid from the solids. The pee ends up in the bottle, which gets emptied regularly. The solids go in the bucket, get mixed with saw dust and start composting. When the bucket is full, the lid gets put on. It's moved and another bucket used.
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Post by bills on Jul 21, 2016 16:18:39 GMT
More mostly scatological questions then.
1. So basically you empty the pee bottle into a elsan I presume? 2. Does the toilet paper go in the bucket? 3. Do you add a layer of sawdust after every crap? 4. How long does one (normal)human take to fill a bucket? 5. How long do you leave the full bucket to ferment, decompose, compost? 6. Where can you empty it (legally)?
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Post by kris on Jul 21, 2016 16:33:59 GMT
Okay bill I'll try ,to answer your questions, 1. Yes 2. No the toilet paper is kept separate and burnt 3. Yes a handful of sawdust is added after every visit 4. Don't know exactly yet, but four of the 33l buckets should last me approx a year 5. By the time I've filled four the first one should be composted 6. Crt's recommendation is down an elsan
Hope this has helped.
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Post by PaulG2 on Jul 21, 2016 17:16:53 GMT
What is the point of composting if you are just going to throw it in with other sewage? It seems like you are going to a whole lot of trouble, and putting up with some pretty bad odors, and doing repulsive stuff like having to handle soiled toilet paper to burn it, and to what end? Just so you can take a bucket of shit and dispose of it the same way you would with a cassette? It makes no sense to me.
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Post by haulierp on Jul 21, 2016 17:22:19 GMT
What is the point of composting if you are just going to throw it in with other sewage? It seems like you are going to a whole lot of trouble, and putting up with some pretty bad odors, and doing repulsive stuff like having to handle soiled toilet paper to burn it, and to what end? Just so you can take a bucket of shit and dispose of it the same way you would with a cassette? It makes no sense to me. Your bang on the nail with that post Paul,I shall fetch some flameproof overalls while you await a reply.Wandering about a boat with a lump of shitty toilet paper to burn in the stove,what do you do if you have guests,hide it under the pillow?
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Post by marni on Jul 21, 2016 17:36:11 GMT
Is there a flap of some sort that covers over the crap hole? If not it's going to be a fly buffet after the 1st dump.Also i think you are going to have a problem with flies they will find their way into your buckets.Basing this on my rubbish bin at home,It got a very close fitting lid yet the flies still get in there.
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Post by haulierp on Jul 21, 2016 18:51:04 GMT
Is there a flap of some sort that covers over the crap hole? If not it's going to be a fly buffet after the 1st dump.Also i think you are going to have a problem with flies they will find their way into your buckets.Basing this on my rubbish bin at home,It got a very close fitting lid yet the flies still get in there. These can't be that common on the canal,can they?
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Post by PaulG2 on Jul 21, 2016 19:06:55 GMT
What is the point of composting if you are just going to throw it in with other sewage? It seems like you are going to a whole lot of trouble, and putting up with some pretty bad odors, and doing repulsive stuff like having to handle soiled toilet paper to burn it, and to what end? Just so you can take a bucket of shit and dispose of it the same way you would with a cassette? It makes no sense to me. Your bang on the nail with that post Paul,I shall fetch some flameproof overalls while you await a reply.Wandering about a boat with a lump of shitty toilet paper to burn in the stove,what do you do if you have guests,hide it under the pillow? I'm not trying to yank anyone's chain or be critical of Kris. I think Kris did a nice job, especially considering the materials he used. Even if you discount what Kris has to say, just because he's Kris, Peter apparently has been using a composting loo for some time and I think Peter commands a lot more respect than Kris - my point is, this isn't about personalities, it's about having to handle smelly, stinky, foul, germ infested human waste. This system here www.nautiflore.fr/ is pretty economical. If a system like the nautiflore is too expensive, a septic system is easy to DIY - it's just two tanks with one tank overflowing into the other and the liquid that comes out at the end isn't all that nasty. It needs to be chlorinated to kill the germs before it can be pumped into a canal, but on a DIY system pouring some bleach down a pipe and flipping a pump switch is a whole lot more pleasant than dealing with used toilet paper. (I find that aspect of the composting loo totally disgusting.) I've installed quite a few drainfields for septic systems and the liquid in the tanks doesn't smell all that bad. A bucket full of shit is nasty, regardless of how much sawdust you put on it. For Kris' sake I want to repeat, I think he did a fine job building his loo. I just don't see the point behind the whole concept. BTW - paper is just refined sawdust, and paper will compost. So why go to the trouble of handling soiled toilet paper, why not just drop it in the bucket and let it compost?
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Post by marni on Jul 21, 2016 19:28:43 GMT
Is there a flap of some sort that covers over the crap hole? If not it's going to be a fly buffet after the 1st dump.Also i think you are going to have a problem with flies they will find their way into your buckets.Basing this on my rubbish bin at home,It got a very close fitting lid yet the flies still get in there. These can't be that common on the canal,can they? Did that come across that we crap in a bin
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 19:55:54 GMT
Seeing as we are talking shit..... Kris has yet to use his so may not have first hand experience of this question so I guess it's beter aimed at Pete. Does it rely on a fairly consistent sort of poo? By that I mean what are the consequences of having an epically hot curry and a skinful of gut rot beer? Do you need to be a fibre and lental munching teetotaler for it to be not too harrowing to live with? As other's, no agenda or piss taking meant or implied. As for emptying it, can be no worse than dealing with a suitcase full of shit, be far the worst aspect of boating for me
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Post by marni on Jul 21, 2016 20:07:57 GMT
The bloke in our marina has a composting loo.He spreads it on the woodland next to the marina.It has composted for about 12 months in the container, he has a flue that puts fresh air in it and turns a handle every few days to stir it up .Apparently its really good for roses
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