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Post by kris on Aug 6, 2016 18:38:27 GMT
Is it strictly necessery to use a swivel in an anchors warp. If so what type? Is the best place for it between the anchor and chain?
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 6, 2016 18:43:16 GMT
Is it strictly necessery to use a swivel in an anchors warp. If so what type? Is the best place for it between the anchor and chain? I think it depends on where you intend to use it. If you are anchored in a tidal area for a long period I guess it's quite possible for the boat to circle the anchor and thus twist the chain / warp up (unless there is a swivel). However if you just want it to anchor on a non-tidal river etc, the boat won't circulate and a swivel isn't necessary
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Post by kris on Aug 6, 2016 19:03:40 GMT
Thanks nick
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Post by Saltysplash on Aug 7, 2016 18:54:15 GMT
Is it strictly necessery to use a swivel in an anchors warp. If so what type? Is the best place for it between the anchor and chain? In both sea boats ive owned, 30' motorsailer and 50'MFV i've never had a swivel on the Chain. Its a weak point and the last thing I would want when Ive got 60 ton of boat on the end. If you think about it, if anchoring in Tidal Waters when you drop the hook you will be pulled by the tide one way only......until the change when you will be pulled the other way. There is no spinning around or drifting in circles. For the hour of slack water you tend to remain in one place unless there is any breeze in which case you will be held in that direction till the turn of the tide. It is very unusual to remain at anchor for more than 2 tides...one in and one out.
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Post by kris on Aug 7, 2016 19:03:09 GMT
Thanks for the reply, it's just that I ve seen them mentioned and was wondering if I needed one. I'm thinking about the tidal Trent and then no tidal rivers which obviously tend to flow in one direction.
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Post by Saltysplash on Aug 7, 2016 19:21:25 GMT
Its purely my personal choice, Ive never seen them on any of the boats i've been on, Just not keen on having a weak link in such an important bit of kit. The shackles linking chain to anchor have always been the biggest fuck off lumps of metal in christendom.
If your mooring overnight a decent anchor alarm is a must. I understand you can get them on an iphone app these days, Mine was part of my Chartplotter/GPS
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Post by Saltysplash on Aug 7, 2016 19:22:26 GMT
Will you be using both Warp and Chain?
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Post by kris on Aug 7, 2016 19:25:03 GMT
Yes Ive got warp and chain.
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Post by PaulG2 on Aug 7, 2016 20:16:16 GMT
I don't recall ever having a swivel on any of the anchors on my various boats, and all of those were sea-going so meant to anchor where tides were usually involved. Here's a link to Google anchor photos and I don't see a single one with a swivel on it. Keep in mind that, when anchoring, you want to put out enough chain that you have chain laying on the bottom that the chain acts as a shock absorber so that you have to lift a fairly good section of chain before putting any strain on your anchor. While your anchor will change its direction due to the direction of the tide, rotate on a plane if you will, it never really twists in a manner that would necessitate a swivel.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 7, 2016 21:31:39 GMT
Yes Ive got warp and chain. Warp, chain and anchor is all I am taking on to the Thames and I reckon my chance of deploying it is less than 1 in 100.
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Post by Graham on Aug 9, 2016 13:47:50 GMT
Yes Ive got warp and chain. Warp, chain and anchor is all I am taking on to the Thames and I reckon my chance of deploying it is less than 1 in 100. I would suggest even less than that so long as you have a good engine etc and plan the trip so you get to locks when you should be there.
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Post by loafer on Aug 9, 2016 17:01:27 GMT
Yes Ive got warp and chain. Warp, chain and anchor is all I am taking on to the Thames and I reckon my chance of deploying it is less than 1 in 100. Probably 1 in 1000. I LOVE your signature!
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 9, 2016 17:05:51 GMT
Aw thanks, I love yours too!
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