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Post by bodger on May 3, 2019 7:11:23 GMT
Seems the contractors may have struggled with feet and inches and got confused with millimetres and centimetres. why do you infer that? I don't believe the lock was repaired to be 13000mm wide, or alternatively 4ft wide.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 3, 2019 7:11:53 GMT
Just to confirm Andy's boat used to fit through the lock Here you go magnetman. Just to avoid any confusion. Perhaps you should go to spec savers? Well, we don't know how wide Andy's boat is/was, do we?
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Post by kris on May 3, 2019 7:12:25 GMT
OK can you explain to me where in this thread prior to my post anyone said that as I am struggling to find it. Maybe I need glasses. Yes, I missed that, too. Do you want me to quote it for you?
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Post by kris on May 3, 2019 7:13:14 GMT
Here you go magnetman. Just to avoid any confusion. Perhaps you should go to spec savers? Well, we don't know how wide Andy's boat is/was, do we? Yes we do, I suggest you read what is written in the thread.or do you want me to quote that for you as well?
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Post by naughtyfox on May 3, 2019 7:16:48 GMT
Well, we don't know how wide Andy's boat is/was, do we? Yes we do, I suggest you read what is written in the thread.or do you want me to quote that for you as well? Yes please - all I can see is "Just to confirm Andy's boat used to fit through the lock". Tell me which page and how many comments from the top. Back later, though, back to work now.
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Post by kris on May 3, 2019 7:19:46 GMT
I've got a 1972 (fifth edition revised) Imray Inland Waterways of Britain which has this The boat I believe is 13.4 so well in. Although CRT are blaimng him, Of I was him I would be getting hold of his sighting record to prove it's not his first visit Here you go foxy I'll read through the thread for you and find the imformation that you want.
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Post by pearley on May 3, 2019 8:28:02 GMT
To be honest afaik both locks still have stuck boats in so everyone is stranded. There are a lot of wide beam boats around, I suspect there are a few now confined to a few miles of canal. There are a few differing dimensions given on the net jimsheads says 14 ft, there is also 13ft10 quoted and 13ft8 so take your pick. I imagine there will be a stink if they've stranded boats by narrowing the locks. Was it contractors who did the work or carts staff? My 1997 Nicholsons states maximum beam from Newbury to Bath as 12 foot.
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Post by kris on May 3, 2019 8:32:54 GMT
There are a few differing dimensions given on the net jimsheads says 14 ft, there is also 13ft10 quoted and 13ft8 so take your pick. I imagine there will be a stink if they've stranded boats by narrowing the locks. Was it contractors who did the work or carts staff? My 1997 Nicholsons states maximum beam from Newbury to Bath as 12 foot. Obviously nonsense if 13ft4 boats have been navigating the waterway.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 8:35:40 GMT
We came down Hurleston yesterday.
C&RT staff and volunteers are on site assisting boats, but also turning boats away that they consider doubtful to get through.
The bottom lock has certainly closed up since our last visit about 5 years ago. I would think there's barely an inch of space either side of our boat, whilst there must be 4 or 5 inches either side in the other locks.
We met a boat on the Napton flight last year, who'd gone up the locks to visit the Cropredy festival, but on returning two weeks later was stuck fast in lock nine.
It took C&RT staff, and a friend of theirs with heavy duty winches a couple of days to get them out.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 8:43:17 GMT
My 1997 Nicholsons states maximum beam from Newbury to Bath as 12 foot. Obviously nonsense if 13ft4 boats have been navigating the waterway. Interesting though as there must be a reason why they recommend 12ft as a maximum beam. Unless someone just randomly thought it up. One point to note is that the Imray guides JohnV and I have were both dated before the 1990 reopening of the canal. The Nicholson's was dated after that. A 12ft beam recommendation may be related to cabin width and a bridge somewhere. There was a low bridge at Newbury now rebuilt but can not remember if it was an arch.
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Post by JohnV on May 3, 2019 8:48:28 GMT
My 1997 Nicholsons states maximum beam from Newbury to Bath as 12 foot. Obviously nonsense if 13ft4 boats have been navigating the waterway. according to the K&A canal trust, the original company recognised three classes of vessel. class A approved vessels 69' X 12'4" class A approved vessels 69' X 6'11" class B non approved vessels 69' X 14'
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 9:00:41 GMT
Difficult to rely on Nicholson's for any detail.
The Llangollen draught is shown as 2'3" upto Pontcysylte and the 2' upto Llangollen.
But we've done it several times in our 2'4" draught boat, and last time followed a boat with draught of 2'8".
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 9:10:01 GMT
The last Nicholson's I bought ended up in the bin. The out of date and sometimes non existent information was on the whole completely useless. It was totally hopeless on the Thames, and not much better on the canals.
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Post by bodger on May 3, 2019 9:13:59 GMT
There are a few differing dimensions given on the net jimsheads says 14 ft, there is also 13ft10 quoted and 13ft8 so take your pick. I imagine there will be a stink if they've stranded boats by narrowing the locks. Was it contractors who did the work or carts staff? My 1997 Nicholsons states maximum beam from Newbury to Bath as 12 foot. mine is 2006 and states 13' - 2"
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2019 9:17:11 GMT
Difficult to rely on Nicholson's for any detail. The Llangollen draught is shown as 2'3" upto Pontcysylte and the 2' upto Llangollen. But we've done it several times in our 2'4" draught boat, and last time followed a boat with draught of 2'8". Rog The old Imray I have states Welsh canal Length 70ft Beam 6'10" Draught to Trevor 2'6 to Llantisilio 2ft It is technically a branch of the Shropshire Union but most people call it the Llangollen now.
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