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Post by JohnV on May 5, 2019 17:21:59 GMT
Are you coming down to London then? I'll buy you a gallon of beer if you are Eta beer shop prices not ripoff pubs you really would not want to see the price of beer in the pubs here !! No, I'm talking about paying extra for mooring to the towpath. That is what I meant when I said some of their ideas seem to be suggesting things that CRT may lack the legal power to do
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 17:22:06 GMT
Yes you see a very very small charge to remain within an area as gentrification, implying its something new. Its not it has always been that way. The charge will be new but the way things are regards it being expensive are not. So being against the introduction of an "extra" charge for something that I already pay for is warped is it? Just so you know where you are; I am very much in favour of charges being introduced for overnight mooring above 24/48hours in popular locations. Just like on the Thames.
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Post by kris on May 5, 2019 17:23:37 GMT
kris Thats a bit silly really. How much of your "license" is the navigation and how much is the mooring? What value would you give to being able to moor your boat (and live on it)? So your saying that having a liscence doesn't entitle you to moor to the towpath then?
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Post by kris on May 5, 2019 17:24:52 GMT
So being against the introduction of an "extra" charge for something that I already pay for is warped is it? Just so you know where you are; I am very much in favour of charges being introduced for overnight mooring above 24/48hours in popular locations. Just like on the Thames. Yes and as I've pointed out you think I'm the warped one. Your not a member of the provisional iwa by any chance?
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Post by JohnV on May 5, 2019 17:25:10 GMT
So being against the introduction of an "extra" charge for something that I already pay for is warped is it? Just so you know where you are; I am very much in favour of charges being introduced for overnight mooring above 24/48hours in popular locations. Just like on the Thames. in favour or not .... as I suggested earlier I have a feeling they are not able to do so legally (Hopefully Nigel will be along and educate us)
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Post by kris on May 5, 2019 17:26:40 GMT
No, I'm talking about paying extra for mooring to the towpath. That is what I meant when I said some of their ideas seem to be suggesting things that CRT may lack the legal power to do They haven't the legal powers to do it John, but that doesn't seem to stop them at the moment. If they tried to introduce this in London, I'm sure they would have to do it nationally to be "fair"
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 17:27:03 GMT
kris Thats a bit silly really. How much of your "license" is the navigation and how much is the mooring? What value would you give to being able to moor your boat (and live on it)? So your saying that having a liscence doesn't entitle you to moor to the towpath then? We all know it does because of the 1995 BW act and the Bona Fide thing. Maybe it was all a scam to get as many people onto boats pricing themselves out of housing by spending their deposits on steel boxes then once you have a captive clientele clobber them hard for as much cash as the will bleed.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 17:30:23 GMT
So being against the introduction of an "extra" charge for something that I already pay for is warped is it? Just so you know where you are; I am very much in favour of charges being introduced for overnight mooring above 24/48hours in popular locations. Just like on the Thames. It does make an awful lot of sense. Henley is a good example. A popular place on the Thames where its £10 per 24h or thereof for mooring. Difference being it is privately owned land and Steve has been doing it a long time. He lives on his own barge on Regatta land and looks after moorings and security including policing the public footpath and preventing the area becoming a park. I don't pay for mooring there personally due to my long term VIP status but the principle is right that you charge people for something that there is demand for.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 18:19:33 GMT
Just so you know where you are; I am very much in favour of charges being introduced for overnight mooring above 24/48hours in popular locations. Just like on the Thames. in favour or not .... as I suggested earlier I have a feeling they are not able to do so legally (Hopefully Nigel will be along and educate us) I don't think they can either, mores the pity. They did manage to do it on the Welsh canal but that may have been due to the extra services they supplied. Still shouldn't really bother me as I'm not on cart waters and unlikely to be for the foreseeable future.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 6, 2019 7:56:26 GMT
Are you coming down to London then? I'll buy you a gallon of beer if you are Eta beer shop prices not ripoff pubs you really would not want to see the price of beer in the pubs here !! No, I'm talking about paying extra for mooring to the towpath. If it's introduced in London that will be just the start, it will soon be nationwide. So yes I'm against being charged again for something I already pay for, but apparently I'm warped. You used to own British Gas, British Rail, British Airways - and now you're paying extra to all the private companies that own them now. Even your voting rights have been stolen by this present government. Perhaps CRT and the EA should stop messing about and simply double the licence fees.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 6, 2019 8:01:14 GMT
in favour or not .... as I suggested earlier I have a feeling they are not able to do so legally (Hopefully Nigel will be along and educate us) Still shouldn't really bother me as I'm not on cart waters and unlikely to be for the foreseeable future. Well, let's hope the EA start charging £10/night for anywhere along the banks of their navigations where boaters fancy stopping, eh? Actually, why not £20? You know you can afford it.
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Post by JohnV on May 6, 2019 8:04:52 GMT
Still shouldn't really bother me as I'm not on cart waters and unlikely to be for the foreseeable future. Well, let's hope the EA start charging £10/night for anywhere along the banks of their navigations where boaters fancy stopping, eh? Actually, why not £20? You know you can afford it. I am neither on CaRT nor EA water, nor on Broads authority waters, I am on a river with no navigation authority ...... and long may it continue so
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Post by naughtyfox on May 6, 2019 8:06:43 GMT
Sshhh... lay low and stay quiet. They will hunt you down!
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Post by thebfg on May 6, 2019 12:14:50 GMT
kris Thats a bit silly really. How much of your "license" is the navigation and how much is the mooring? What value would you give to being able to moor your boat (and live on it)? So your saying that having a liscence doesn't entitle you to moor to the towpath then? That's what he is saying but kind of asking how much of the license fee do you apportion to navigation and how much to moor. I beleive it was a theoretical question.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 12:37:25 GMT
Paul strudwick has been trying to gentrify boating in London for as long as I have been on the canals. He recently teamed up with Alan wildman, and between them set about conning the London nbta into working with them. Now the shit has hit the fan (again), and nbta suddenly realise they've been screwed (again). Strudwick used to attend all the user group meetings, collating data that he would later pronounce as iwa positive thinking and then set it as iwa policy. The guy is a typical little iwa twat.
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