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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 19:38:32 GMT
That has never been my calling in life - for what ever reason my calling seems to be challenging the sanctimonious who believe their way is the only way........ Would that be the remainers? Phil Yes if they really believe no brexit at all costs. Even Jim says he could accept May's deal.
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Post by peterboat on Jun 7, 2019 21:30:42 GMT
So, all believers in democracy will be advocating for 2 things; One, a vote on deal, no deal or remain now that we know what is on offer. Two, a general election so that a right-wing lying turncoat doesn't become our pm without our sayso. It's not right that a few blue rinse oxygen stealers get to say who our next prime minister is, and where he will lead the country. It will be the second unelected pm in a row. I've also heard several tories say "if we had a general election now Jeremy would win". So obviously that is the current "will of the people", to be ignored because tories are more interested in power than democracy, party before country. The tories caused this mess, they should pay the price. True advocates of democracy also realise, that for it to function, if there is a very close vote on an issue the "winners" should accommodate the views of the "losers". So No No Deal! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post by peterboat on Jun 7, 2019 21:36:44 GMT
Lets be honest Labour pulled out all the stops, they had the records to help and they had vote fixing if its true? What we should remember with all that they still had 12000 less votes than two years ago!! Thats some victory isnt it...........NOT
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 7, 2019 21:55:48 GMT
True advocates of democracy also realise, that for it to function, if there is a very close vote on an issue the "winners" should accommodate the views of the "losers". So No No Deal! The UK has always been willing to make a deal- you might remember shortly before the referendum when David Cameron tried to make a deal and came back from Brussels empty-handed and totally humiliated. Which was why he resigned and handed over the whole shit-cart to Teresa May. It's the eu who won't make a deal, who won't budge from their agenda by so much as an inch. After two failed attempts to dominate Europe, Germany finally realised that there was an easier way than building tanks and U-boats.
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Post by Jim on Jun 8, 2019 6:11:03 GMT
True advocates of democracy also realise, that for it to function, if there is a very close vote on an issue the "winners" should accommodate the views of the "losers". So No No Deal! The UK has always been willing to make a deal- you might remember shortly before the referendum when David Cameron tried to make a deal and came back from Brussels empty-handed and totally humiliated. Which was why he resigned and handed over the whole shit-cart to Teresa May. It's the eu who won't make a deal, who won't budge from their agenda by so much as an inch. After two failed attempts to dominate Europe, Germany finally realised that there was an easier way than building tanks and U-boats. there is a deal agreed, do keep up. Quitlings decided to faff about and remain. We would have been out by now if you lot got your act together. I think you relish the misery of it all.
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Post by Jim on Jun 8, 2019 6:12:47 GMT
So, all believers in democracy will be advocating for 2 things; One, a vote on deal, no deal or remain now that we know what is on offer. Two, a general election so that a right-wing lying turncoat doesn't become our pm without our sayso. It's not right that a few blue rinse oxygen stealers get to say who our next prime minister is, and where he will lead the country. It will be the second unelected pm in a row. I've also heard several tories say "if we had a general election now Jeremy would win". So obviously that is the current "will of the people", to be ignored because tories are more interested in power than democracy, party before country. The tories caused this mess, they should pay the price. True advocates of democracy also realise, that for it to function, if there is a very close vote on an issue the "winners" should accommodate the views of the "losers". So No No Deal! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Calm down dear.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 8, 2019 6:22:17 GMT
True advocates of democracy also realise, that for it to function, if there is a very close vote on an issue the "winners" should accommodate the views of the "losers". So No No Deal! Germany finally realised that there was an easier way than building tanks and U-boats. 50% of train companies in the UK today are run by Deutsche Bahn. With Jew-hater Corbyn in power, I'd be afraid of being transported by train anywhere away from home. But then they don't ask you nicely if you'd like a 'holiday'.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 8, 2019 7:29:15 GMT
"Gordon Brown has sought and got an *enquiry* into the financial arrangements of the Brexit Party, because old jockstrap fears that the money “might come from anywhere” (a bit like the donations handed to him and Anthony Blair, for *access*). The relevant body will inspect the Brexit party TOMORROW.
What a spiteful childish act from Gordon, who took part with his tarry fingered colleagues of a decade ago in the expenses scandals, of which he availed himself abundantly.
Hopefully the obese old fart’s behaviour will backfire on him, and he has just lost old Steptoe another few thousand votes – or perhaps that is what he and the fancy nancy boys of Blairite New Labour want?"
"Gordon Brown and the "Peoples’ Vote" loons have complained to the Election Commission that Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party have illegally accepting undeclared donations of over £500 (the limit for which donations must be declared) from anonymous sources, something Farage has vehemently denied. Consequently, the deeply partisan lickspittles at the EC will be visiting the Brexit Party HQ on Tuesday 21st May to conduct an investigation in this allegation which to my knowledge, has absolutely no basis in fact. It was Brown who made a written complaint to the EC, demanding an investigation. And of course, being staffed with biased left wing cock jockey’s, they have obliged. The timing of this, just days before the EU elections, is suspicious, to put it mildly.
I doubt the EC will find anything, but I will be surprised if they don’t at least attempt a hatchet job on the Brexit Party. Meanwhile, the "Peoples’ Vote" twats have been blatantly displaying their hypocrisy by announcing to their equally braindead supporters that they will be accepting donations up to £499, £1 below the limit for declaring donations. They’ve even admitted that they’ve deliberately done that to AVOID declaring donations, which is what they’ve just accused the Brexit Party of doing.
Giving that pretty much all the polls for this election have the Brexit party way in out in front, it’s hard to see Brown’s complaint to the EC as anything other than a cynical attempt at smearing the Brexit Party, just days before the election. I doubt it will work, but it does show how shit scared the traitors in the Remain camp are of Farage. He created the party only a couple of months ago, and already they’re way out in front. It’s also a sign, which the traitors keep ignoring, that the British people are beyond pissed with the current political class. Let’s see if Cable is crowing about the Limp Dumbs recent by election success as a sign that the British people want Brexit cancelled when the results of the EU election are announced."
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jun 8, 2019 8:09:48 GMT
See my last point. What did they vote for? Hard, soft, shared trade area, just sticking it to the man etc, all we were told was the vacuous and contemptuous Brexit means Brexit. It was in the hands of quitlings to vote for May's hard won deal, which personally I would have put up with. But no, quitlings would rather wreck the economy. It's quite ironic for someone to wish for a true socialist state on one hand, then bemoan the potential wrecking of the economy on the other.
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Post by Jim on Jun 8, 2019 8:13:26 GMT
See my last point. What did they vote for? Hard, soft, shared trade area, just sticking it to the man etc, all we were told was the vacuous and contemptuous Brexit means Brexit. It was in the hands of quitlings to vote for May's hard won deal, which personally I would have put up with. But no, quitlings would rather wreck the economy. It's quite ironic for someone to wish for a true socialist state on one hand, then bemoan the potential wrecking of the economy on the other. Your memory is failing. The last crash was caused by greedy tory bankers.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jun 8, 2019 8:47:44 GMT
It's quite ironic for someone to wish for a true socialist state on one hand, then bemoan the potential wrecking of the economy on the other. Your memory is failing. The last crash was caused by greedy tory bankers. Are you looking towards the USSR for your true socialist state with a buoyant economy, Cuba, Venezuela or North Korea?
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Post by Jim on Jun 8, 2019 8:50:16 GMT
Your memory is failing. The last crash was caused by greedy tory bankers. Are you looking towards the USSR for your true socialist state with a buoyant economy, Cuba, Venezuela or North Korea? None of those were true socialist. Jezzer will show you.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jun 8, 2019 8:55:27 GMT
Are you looking towards the USSR for your true socialist state with a buoyant economy, Cuba, Venezuela or North Korea? None of those were true socialist. Jezzer will show you. Yes, increasing corporation tax (and other taxes) when one of the EU's cornerstones is freedom of movement of capital seems like a great way to protect and grow the economy.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 8, 2019 8:56:40 GMT
Are you looking towards the USSR for your true socialist state with a buoyant economy, Cuba, Venezuela or North Korea? None of those were true socialist. Jezzer will show you. That will be the Jezzer who was a lifelong eurosceptic until he got a sniff of the Halls of Power? A man of principle, type of thing?
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Post by JohnV on Jun 8, 2019 8:57:02 GMT
It's quite ironic for someone to wish for a true socialist state on one hand, then bemoan the potential wrecking of the economy on the other. Your memory is failing. The last crash was caused by greedy tory bankers. Jim, you really have a bad habit of simplifying and polarising very complex subjects. You should really do some basic research of your own before you pronounce on things using "sound bites" provided by others. All governments from the late 1980's on, cosied up to the banks and bankers (John Smith's "Prawn cocktail offensive" when he was chancellor in 1990 was an early example) Thatcher's government removed restrictions on British banking in response to the USA's de restriction which was causing the British banking centres to lose trade to American banks. Continued under Blair when many of the banking companies became conglomerates, very much controlled by foreign banks ...... 1998 Peter Mandleson "we are intensely relaxed about people getting filthy rich as long as they pay their taxes" Labour was always fearful of upsetting the banks as there was a history of financial problems under their governments that required the assistance of the banks to survive. Then Gordon handed the ability to alter interest rates to the Bank of England away from government. A long series of errors but often many of the pressures coming from the other side of the pond. To say Tory bankers is being fooled by cheap and inaccurate propaganda .... especially as many were mainly foreign owned
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