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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 9:58:33 GMT
Very enjoyable game ... and it's been a while since I could say that about a 'top flight' men's soccer game.
The better team won, but it was a close run thing.
The way the English ladies continued pushing right to the final whistle (with only ten players by then) speaks highly of their fitness levels. The American team seemed more 'street wise' and more skilled (particularly with accuracy of passing) but I would not have said physically fitter.
Congratulations on the lack of sour grapes, theatrics and general whinging to all the players. The men should be embarrassed.
Rog
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 3, 2019 10:30:16 GMT
Just in general: I don't think it's helpful to compare and contrast the men's and women's games. If we were to do that we'd bang on about an under 16 men's team that beat the Australian national women's team 7-1. It's not helpful to do that, neither is it helpful to cherry pick aspects of the women's game that are probably better than the men's, whilst ignoring the aspects that aren't as good.
Correction: The Newcastle Jets under 15 team beat the Australian women 7-0 in 2016.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 15:46:40 GMT
I would agree, but I was comparing their standards of onfield conduct and behaviour, not the games.
Top flight men's soccer is an embarrassment at times ... don't take my word for it just look at you tube clips.
Rog
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 3, 2019 16:28:05 GMT
Yes Rog, I was a season ticket holder at Manchester City between 1973 and 2006. Bad timing really, they only won 1 League cup in all that time! I stopped going because it got too expensive, tackling was taken out of the game, it was 'gentrified' to appeal more to families and less to traditional football supporters, young to middle aged men. It was the start of prima donnas coming into the game who cared more about their image than applying themselves to the club who paid them. David Beckham set the ball rolling, many more have followed since.
We could compare the on field conduct but let's be honest, there have been more than a few dives (unpunished, mainly) and there was a fair bit of dissent going on last night.
Whenever any comparison is made it always favours women. A player, can't remember her name, became the record all time world cup goalscorer earlier in the competition. The commentator seemed to take great delight in that this included the men's game. Let's be honest, most of those goals would have been scored against far inferior teams, there's a huge gulf in quality between the top and bottom teams. 13-0 for example.
The men's game has a history of 140 years and has been a passion in the lives of millions of people for many generations. I think it's a bit silly to big up the women's game, which has only become popular of late while at the same time as denigrating the men's version.
Best to see it as a completely different game, enjoy it for what it is, a very watchable sport which will surely rise in popularity. If the powers that be continue to rubbish the men's game in favour of the women's version it will become a part of political correctness, if it hasn't already, and put off as many potential supporters as it attracts.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 16:58:48 GMT
Until the FA banned womens football at their grounds, because of its popularity, back in the early 1900's attendances were much greater at womens football.
Without the ban, which effectively killed the womens game, who knows which would have been preeminent.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 3, 2019 17:04:21 GMT
I didn't know that!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2019 17:17:45 GMT
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Post by lollygagger on Jul 3, 2019 17:19:01 GMT
Until the FA banned womens football at their grounds, because of its popularity, back in the early 1900's attendances were much greater at womens football. Without the ban, which effectively killed the womens game, who knows which would have been preeminent. Rog Exactly this! Women's football was more popular than men's so the FA banned it from "their" grounds. Fancy it taking 100 years to pick up again. They still do all they can to side line it.
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Post by lollygagger on Jul 4, 2019 7:18:13 GMT
Anyone watch last night other semi final? What a dismal game, really two poor teams trying not to loose, dull, dull, dull. The yanks must be quaking in their boots...not! It went to extra time so they'll also be knackered, I predict USA 6 -Netherlands nil, and that's being kind to the Netherlands.
The England USA game should have been the final, it was 1000x better.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 4, 2019 8:45:42 GMT
It wasn't the best game but very finely balanced, that made it interesting to me. I fancied Sweden, their front 2 are the best in the tournament to me but after a few flashes in the first hour, they faded.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 7, 2019 20:27:40 GMT
So it's all over now, and as predicted very early on, the USA won it. I don't think there was ever any doubt that they would, in a way it's a shame that England wasn't in the final but even if we were we would have been outclassed. Hopefully next time some other team can give them some serious competition.
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