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Post by bodger on Jun 30, 2019 18:21:16 GMT
Buy a cartridge of 5 minute polyurethane wood glue. It sticks anything until it doesn't any more and you can just hold it or string it together whilst it sets. edited. expanding PU adhesive seems good, but unless the conditions of the mating surfaces are right, it doesn't actually stick very well. If the surplus runs down onto the surface of the wood, you can wait until it's dried hard and then just lift it off with a spatula. I much prefer the PU mastic type (PU14 by Bond-it) which really does stick - just try to get it off your fingers or tools - ARGHHH!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 18:21:28 GMT
The last time I got a yard to cut up a sheet of ply (to make drawers) none of the cuts were square so the only gain was a pile of smaller pieces to transport. Then I had to redesign as I sorted it out so the now square but smaller pieces could be used. I should have just got them to cut the sheet in half to transport! The moral is the usual one - if you want a job done properly, do it yourself. that shouldn't be possible if it is cut on a jig like B&Q use for all sheet materials. they must have done it by hand marking. If you don't trust the machinist, and you have a circular saw, its relatively easy to create your own accurate cuts. There is something you have to do first though: 1. Find a length of plywood, ideally a lengthways off-cut of a sheet (say 8mm but anything will work). 2. Find a length of stripwood ideally the same length as the ply. It could also be ply. Fix the stripwood to the first piece of ply in a roughly parallel fashoin. You dont have to be too accurate. I would screw and glue it but again not strictly neccersary. 3. Fit the 'shoe' of your circular saw to the stripwood so that it operates like a fence. Can you see what it is yet? 4. Cut down the entire length of the ply. Now you have a tool which you can screw or clamp to any sheet of ply (or anything else) and get a accurate straight cut every time. NB the stripwood has to be thin enough so that it passes under the circular saws' motor...try it and you'll see what I mean.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 2, 2019 16:19:06 GMT
Well I went to B & Q this afternoon armed with the sizes required for 14 lengths of 44 x 33. Nobody at the wood cutting bench, buzzed, someone turned up 10 minutes later. "Sorry mate, we only cut sheet materials, 340 width minimum, minimum length 500mm." Nothing about this on their website, only that the first 15 cuts are free. Wasted 20 mile return journey to Crewe which incidentally seems more like a suburb of Warsaw than a shitty south Cheshire town.
Well pissed off.
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Post by bodger on Jul 2, 2019 18:36:59 GMT
sorry to pour cold water on your efforts, Ricco, but cutting 14 pieces of 44x33 even with your old tenon saw is the work of 5 minutes - less time than you spent waiting at the sawing bench. if you really can't cut timber that size accurately then I suggest you don't proceed.
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Post by Gone on Jul 2, 2019 18:51:19 GMT
sorry to pour cold water on your efforts, Ricco, but cutting 14 pieces of 44x33 even with your old tenon saw is the work of 5 minutes - less time than you spent waiting at the sawing bench. if you really can't cut timber that size accurately then I suggest you don't proceed. Cutting.....
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 2, 2019 18:53:14 GMT
journey to Crewe which incidentally seems more like a suburb of Warsaw than a shitty south Cheshire town. The whole of the UK is becoming an outpost of Poland and Somalia. Nothing quite like sending UK Child Benefits back to all your kids at home! Foreign Aid. Come and get it!!
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Post by lollygagger on Jul 2, 2019 19:01:06 GMT
sorry to pour cold water on your efforts, Ricco, but cutting 14 pieces of 44x33 even with your old tenon saw is the work of 5 minutes - less time than you spent waiting at the sawing bench. if you really can't cut timber that size accurately then I suggest you don't proceed. Harsh but true. However at least he knows his limitations. TBH the construction plans outlined earlier had me cringing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 19:05:37 GMT
journey to Crewe which incidentally seems more like a suburb of Warsaw than a shitty south Cheshire town. The whole of the UK is becoming an outpost of Poland and Somalia. Nothing quite like sending UK Child Benefits back to all your kids at home! Foreign Aid. Come and get it!! I suspect most of them there foreigners would be able to cut a bit of wood without traveling 20 miles to try to get some muppet to do it for free...
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 2, 2019 19:09:28 GMT
No - I agree with ricco's endeavour. It's just that B&Qs are staffed by incapable and uncaring jobsworths. They promise services - yet don't deliver.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 2, 2019 20:03:49 GMT
sorry to pour cold water on your efforts, Ricco, but cutting 14 pieces of 44x33 even with your old tenon saw is the work of 5 minutes - less time than you spent waiting at the sawing bench. if you really can't cut timber that size accurately then I suggest you don't proceed. Fair point bodger but my only option is to saw up the wood in the car park. I've carried a few things on my motorbike, including a leisure battery and a fully loaded cassette but I don't think Mr plod would be too impressed if I balanced a 2.4m long pack of wood on my shoulder for the trip back. This is Britain, not Indonesia In any case my thinking was the best chance of getting a half decent job (I'd be happy with that; not seeking perfection) was to start off with nice square cuts and accurate sizes. It's quite difficult to achieve this trying to balance a 2.4m length of timber on a traffic bollard in B&Q's car park.
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Post by bodger on Jul 2, 2019 20:20:19 GMT
I often used to see folk cutting a sheet of 8x4 in half in the car park at Wickes using a handsaw. if you are not confident, just cut the timber a bit oversize in the car park and finish it to the exact size later.
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Post by bodger on Jul 2, 2019 20:24:16 GMT
No - I agree with ricco's endeavour. It's just that B&Qs are staffed by incapable and uncaring jobsworths. They promise services - yet don't deliver. B&Q never promised to cut 44x34. Ricco has now found out that they only cut sheet materials, which has always been the case. As a matter of fact, I find the staff at B&Q are generally well helpful and usually quite knowledgeable. ................. but that wouldn't pass the Daily Mail controversial journalism test, would it?
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 2, 2019 20:31:18 GMT
B&Q's website states that they offer up to 15 cuts free, then 50p each. They don't state that the service is limited to sheet materials. They should state that, would have saved me a 20 mile wasted journey, and I'd wager I'm not the only one.
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Post by bodger on Jul 2, 2019 20:51:40 GMT
Ricco, sorry to be critical, but no-one familiar with DIY expects the shop to cut timber to length.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 2, 2019 21:00:11 GMT
Ricco, sorry to be critical, but no-one familiar with DIY expects the shop to cut timber to length. I guess there are different levels of familiarity with diy. I'm no expert, but did successfully fit a kitchen. Anyway it doesn't matter, B&Q, offering a timber cutting service as they do, should state it's limited to sheet materials. The average person in the street, regardless of their level of expertise in diy, might expect a "timber cutting service" to be just that, not a "sheet material cutting service". That's who B&Q serve, the average person in the street, with varying levels of diy skills, not mind readers.
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