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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 15:27:11 GMT
Is there a wide beam boat moored near you ? Have a chat if so, and if the neighbour has plenty of wide beam experience I'm sure he or she will jump at the chance to demonstrate their skill if subtly hinted at I did a diesel engine course with Tony Brookes before we set off cruising the network many years ago ... I have no mechanical gift or proclivity, but my general confidence was greatly lifted by Tony's guidance and it proved time and money well spent. I think paying to have a one or two day 'helmsmans course' on your own boat would not be wasted money, but not cheap. Enjoy your new boat, enjoy the challenge of it and don't be frightened by it Rog
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Post by JohnV on Jul 20, 2019 15:47:39 GMT
Best advice for a novice (in fact for anybody) don't do things quickly !!! ..... that way all the accidents you have will be at a slow speed
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jul 20, 2019 17:11:32 GMT
Good morning all and thanks For allowing me to join. I’m about to purchase a 65x12 widebeam moored at Sawley Marina and I’m advised there is someone called Tony Dudley? Who may be able to give me some instructions on boat handling etc as a novice I am looking to be based at Sawley for next 3 years upto my retirement then aim to become a constant cruiser. These 3 years will be spent taking lots of practical instruction and getting used to the boat and how to handle her correctly and safely. If there is anyone at or near Sawley who can help me please do get in touch kind regards Martin Hello Martin, and welcome to Thunderboat. I think it's probably me that you've been told about, and I've had a look over on CWDF to see if I could find any mention. I didn't find anything specific, but if you want some instruction and practical tuition in boat handling then I would be glad to oblige. You can reach me by e-mail at <Canalrivertransport@mail.com> or phone on 07553 294325. Whilst looking through the latest topics over on CWDF I saw two that you started, "On the Move'' and "Once upon a Time". With regard to "Once upon a Time" and tomorrow's pre-purchase demonstration, can I ask if your intentions are to limit your boating to this side of the Pennines, or if you want to be able to get her over on to the Northwest waterways (Bridgewater Canal, Rochdale Canal, River Weaver, Manchester Ship Canal, Lancaster Canal etc.) via the Leeds & Liverpool Canal ? The boat is listed as 65' LOA x 12' Beam, which along with that flat squared off stern, would make her too long for the short locks on the L & L from Wigan to Leeds, which is the only route over the Pennines for anything widebeam and longer than the 57' 6'' maximum length to fit in the Calder & Hebble locks to the West of Sowerby Bridge, and prevents anything any longer than 57' 6'' from getting on to the Eastern end of the Rochdale Canal with it's broad locks that will pass wideboats of 74' LOA. The boat is stated to have been built by an outfit called Aintree Boats, but if it is the 65' LOA that's given in the advert then it will have arrived over on this side of the country on the back of a lorry ! Going by the photo's in the advert for "Once upon a Time", the lack of tumblehome on the cabinsides and the forard cabin bulkhead being so close to the stem/curve of the bows could make this boat something of a cabin-bashing liability at the typical brick or stone built hump-back, arched bridges found on waterways such as the River Soar, the Leicester Cut to Market Harborough, the Trent & Mersey to Burton, and the Nottingham/Beeston canal section of the Trent Navigation. Be careful that you're not buying something that will be nerve-wracking to move about and prone to cabin top edge damage on canal bridges on every waterway leading away from your Sawley mooring, and of an overall length that will restrict you to a choice of only to the bigger broad waterways on the Eastern side of the country, ie. the River Trent, the Fossdyke & Witham Navigations, the Sheffield & South Yorkshire Navigations, the Aire & Calder to Leeds, the River Aire and Selby Cut, the Ouse up to York and beyond, and of course the River Humber. Plenty of mileage to go at there, . . but probably about the same or maybe a good bit more in total across over the Pennines in the Northwest.
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Post by bargemast on Jul 20, 2019 18:02:02 GMT
I hope that Martin will be happy with his boat on which he's planning to live in a marina for 3 years, but I'm affraid he did jump in possibly a bit too quick without getting some useful info first like what Tony just wrote.
Being too limited because of a few feet of boat lenght to enable navigating on the L & L canal through the short locks section is a real pitty.
But it's his boat and his choice.
Peter.
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Post by thebfg on Jul 20, 2019 19:22:53 GMT
between this Welcome to the premier boating, caravaning, and moped forum. It's a little less formal than other places ... but most of us don't bite ... well some of us ... well ... it's okay here and this. Welcome to the finest collection of happy, friendly, grumpy, argumentative, opinionated, egocentric, maladjusted, knowledgeable, ignorant but extremely helpful group on t'internet we are perfectly described. It does make chuckle. welcome aboard, please stick around and join in whilst Tony is your man and very experienced and knowledgeable, there is plenty of help around covering all the needs you may need.
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Post by Jim on Jul 21, 2019 9:30:04 GMT
fergyguy, I see you've put a note on canalworld, you might like to put more detail in it, like you have here.
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Post by fergyguy on Jul 21, 2019 10:28:01 GMT
fergyguy, I see you've put a note on canalworld, you might like to put more detail in it, like you have here.
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