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Post by Jim on Oct 5, 2019 8:47:12 GMT
Maybe he wont break the law because Boris and team might have found a way to circumnavigate it instead? Ah yes, treasonous, treacherous behavior, getting another country to vote against us. Trump is being impeached for similar behaviour.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 5, 2019 9:02:18 GMT
I don't know anything about an 'international agreement' between the north/south Irish border but Brexit means there will be changes and that can be one of them. Why not? Ireland (Eire) is a foreign country and the UK can now charge whatever they like for the Irish to bring their lorries across the country. Certainly a tax for the use of the road network. And insurance checks and vehicle inspection checks. Also driver checks - is their 'professional permit' up to date? Tachograph issues?
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Post by Jim on Oct 5, 2019 9:46:41 GMT
I don't know anything about an 'international agreement' between the north/south Irish border but Brexit means there will be changes and that can be one of them. Why not? Ireland (Eire) is a foreign country and the UK can now charge whatever they like for the Irish to bring their lorries across the country. Certainly a tax for the use of the road network. And insurance checks and vehicle inspection checks. Also driver checks - is their 'professional permit' up to date? Tachograph issues? Try googling "The Good Friday Agreement". You'll find it supersedes and must be accommodated by the current nonsense. Should we abide by agreements we have made or not? Simple question, simple answer yes or no... As I pointed out in the last post, there will be a quid pro quo on checks, "hard working" (well it is a sit down job) english lorry drivers will also be subject to checks and charges.
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Post by peterboat on Oct 5, 2019 11:00:00 GMT
Fair enough that you disagree with Corbyn views, however, he is consistent and honest, not a lying shape-shifting tow rag, intent on spouting whatever serves his own interest. And he and his party now lay 3rd in the polls!! normally you have a conference raise but Corbyn had a conference loss I am afraid in the real world Jim voters dont believe in Corbyn or labour
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Post by peterboat on Oct 5, 2019 11:01:13 GMT
Maybe he wont break the law because Boris and team might have found a way to circumnavigate it instead? Ah yes, treasonous, treacherous behavior, getting another country to vote against us. Trump is being impeached for similar behaviour. Trump owns the upper house so what is the problem for him?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 11:10:23 GMT
It seemed that, in the run-up to the last U.S. election for POTUS, no electorate had ever been handed such a malodorous shit-sandwich. Until now, that is.
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Post by lollygagger on Oct 5, 2019 12:01:21 GMT
Should we abide by agreements we have made or not? Simple question, simple answer yes or no... For you, that probably depends on whether you agree with them or not. I'm sure there were plenty of other agreements that were superseded by the Good Friday one. That's how politics works Jim, one agreement supersedes another or we'd be politically stuck back in 15th Century.
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Post by thebfg on Oct 5, 2019 14:56:17 GMT
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 5, 2019 15:10:55 GMT
Fair enough that you disagree with Corbyn views, however, he is consistent and honest, not a lying shape-shifting tow rag, intent on spouting whatever serves his own interest. So you wouldn't say, for example, that he was a lifelong eurosceptic who voted against the Maastricht treaty, against the Lisbon treatyand who said that we must respect the result of the referendum but did a complete about-turn once he managed to slither up the greasy pole and become Labour leader? Not a lying shape-shifting tow rag, intent on spouting whatever serves his own interest?
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Post by Jim on Oct 5, 2019 15:16:37 GMT
Fair enough that you disagree with Corbyn views, however, he is consistent and honest, not a lying shape-shifting tow rag, intent on spouting whatever serves his own interest. So you wouldn't say, for example, that he was a lifelong eurosceptic who voted against the Maastricht treaty, against the Lisbon treatyand who said that we must respect the result of the referendum but did a complete about-turn once he managed to slither up the greasy pole and become Labour leader? Not a lying shape-shifting tow rag, intent on spouting whatever serves his own interest? The Labour Party is led by its 500k members, they set the agenda, leader follows. A pathetic and paltry 100k old gimmers got Boris the job and foisted him upon us. People are allowed to hold honest opinions, be consistent about them and then change their minds.
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Post by Jim on Oct 5, 2019 15:22:53 GMT
Keep up, on the back row, I'm training my youngest grandson up. He did his work experience with Tony Lloyd, was quoted in Parliament by him. He recently went to the party conference, aged 14. None of that stops me baiting him though, calling him Joe "The Red" White. And asking if Jeremy cured any cripples by laying on hands at the conference.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 5, 2019 16:28:03 GMT
So you wouldn't say, for example, that he was a lifelong eurosceptic who voted against the Maastricht treaty, against the Lisbon treatyand who said that we must respect the result of the referendum but did a complete about-turn once he managed to slither up the greasy pole and become Labour leader? Not a lying shape-shifting tow rag, intent on spouting whatever serves his own interest? The Labour Party is led by its 500k members, they set the agenda, leader follows. A pathetic and paltry 100k old gimmers got Boris the job and foisted him upon us. People are allowed to hold honest opinions, be consistent about them and then change their minds. Oh I see. So when Boris Johnson changes his mind, he's a "lying shape-shifting tow rag" (the expression is actually "toe rag" by the way) but when Jeremy Corbyn changes his mind, he's a man of principle and integrity. How does that work then?
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Post by Jim on Oct 5, 2019 16:57:36 GMT
The Labour Party is led by its 500k members, they set the agenda, leader follows. A pathetic and paltry 100k old gimmers got Boris the job and foisted him upon us. People are allowed to hold honest opinions, be consistent about them and then change their minds. Oh I see. So when Boris Johnson changes his mind, he's a "lying shape-shifting tow rag" (the expression is actually "toe rag" by the way) but when Jeremy Corbyn changes his mind, he's a man of principle and integrity. How does that work then? Boris is doing it for his and his mates interests. He is a lying Tow rag*, to us and the Queen. *lesson for the approved schoolboy, though I have posted it before it obviously didn't go in. "Tow" or cotton waste, was used by Mill Girls as a sanitary towel, aka Jam Rag. Only doing a sitting down job you might not have come across it. Not having girls at your school you wouldn't have come across it.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 5, 2019 17:02:00 GMT
toerag in British (ˈtəʊˌræɡ ) noun British slang a contemptible or despicable person Collins English Dictionary. Copyright © HarperCollins Publishers Word origin of 'toerag' C20: originally, a beggar, tramp: from the pieces of rag they wrapped round their feet
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 5, 2019 17:04:17 GMT
Q From Tessa Huyshe: Toe-rag or tow-rag? I can’t find it in any dictionary, slang dictionary or Fowler’s. What’s the derivation? A Aha, another term from that inexhaustible store of rude British slang expressions (though it is also well-known in Australia). It means that the person addressed is contemptible or worthless, a scrounger. Though it can be a relatively mild insult among friends, you should avoid saying it to strangers unless you want a smack in the mush or a punch up the bracket. The original form — in the nineteenth century — was toe rag. It referred to the strips of cloth that convicts or tramps wrapped around their feet as an inadequate substitute for socks. The first recorded use is by J F Mortlock in his Experiences of a Convict of 1864: “Stockings being unknown, some luxurious men wrapped round their feet a piece of old shirting, called, in language more expressive than elegant, a ‘toe-rag’ ”. It didn’t take long to become a term of abuse — in 1875 a book on British circus life said that “Toe rags is another expression of contempt ... used ... chiefly by the lower grades of circus men, and the acrobats who stroll about the country, performing at fairs”. It seems to have come to wider British knowledge and use from the 1970s on, largely because it was aired in the ITV police series The Sweeney about the London mobile detective force called the flying squad (rhyming slang: flying squad = Sweeney Todd, the demon barber of Fleet Street), a programme that delighted in using London slang. The tow-rag spelling is sometimes seen because people have lost the link to the original sense, long since obsolete. As a lower grade of circus man yourself, I would have thought you would have known this.
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