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Post by sandk on Aug 10, 2019 20:29:37 GMT
Does the Peak Forest Canal only get fed from Toddbrook reservoir or does the Goyt also feed it?
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Post by thebfg on Aug 10, 2019 20:40:32 GMT
I don't know but I'm sure the black brook feeds into bugsworth
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 20:44:28 GMT
I also don't know ... but feel it's a bit 'chicken and egg' as I seem to recall it feeds into the reservoir and the canal.
Off to search now.
Rog
ETA it seems from what I read, that the Goyt feeds the canal and also the reservoir when levels make that possible. That seems to confirm what I've previously been told... but it's in no way authoritative.
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Post by sandk on Aug 10, 2019 21:12:48 GMT
I also don't know ... but feel it's a bit 'chicken and egg' as I seem to recall it feeds into the reservoir and the canal. Off to search now. Rog ETA it seems from what I read, that the Goyt feeds the canal and also the reservoir when levels make that possible. That seems to confirm what I've previously been told... but it's in no way authoritative. Got a link Rog?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 21:18:13 GMT
I was told that surplus water from the Goyt ran into the canal and the reservoir some years ago.
Just did a google search which suggested that surplus water ran into the canal and the reservoir dependant on levels.
Believe me ... I'm no expert.
Rog
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Post by sandk on Aug 10, 2019 21:20:49 GMT
I was told that surplus water from the Goyt ran into the canal and the reservoir some years ago. Just did a google search which suggested that surplus water ran into the canal and the reservoir dependant on levels. Believe me ... I'm no expert. Rog What did you just google?, I'd like to read it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 21:26:09 GMT
Ask the question ... 'does the river goyt feed the canal or Todbrooke reservoir' or however you wish to word it.
Rog
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Post by sandk on Aug 10, 2019 21:38:31 GMT
Ask the question ... 'does the river goyt feed the canal or Todbrooke reservoir' or however you wish to word it. Rog I have done, I still can't find a difiinated answer, I want to know if the Goyt feeds the cut directly.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 11, 2019 6:58:44 GMT
The Macc is fed by Toddbrook, not the river Goyt. Toddbrook is fed by a smaller stream, not the Goyt. Further south the other feeders are Sutton reservoir just south of Macclesfield, then Bosley reservoir. Given that there are no locks on this 21 mile stretch the 2 latter waters should be capable of keeping navigation open this year, given that both are full. Last year though, Bosley locks were closed for 3 months despite all 3 reservoirs being available.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 11, 2019 7:12:52 GMT
How many times have I read boaters moaning that there is never enough water in the Upper Peak Forest Canal? Why so?
Perhaps CRT should send leaflets to every householder in Whaley Bridge telling them "Life's More Exciting By One of Our Dams".
Are residents who have been evacuated entitled to compensation for their plight? Why is no-one interested in the residents of Whaley Bridge now that it seems the dam is not about to burst? What's the latest news, anyway? Seems to have all faded away.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 11, 2019 7:25:15 GMT
How many times have I read boaters moaning that there is never enough water in the Upper Peak Forest Canal? Why so? Perhaps CRT should send leaflets to every householder in Whaley Bridge telling them "Life's More Exciting By One of Our Dams". Are residents who have been evacuated entitled to compensation for their plight? Why is no-one interested in the residents of Whaley Bridge now that it seems the dam is not about to burst? What's the latest news, anyway? Seems to have all faded away. This pound is often kept at a low level even when all the feeder reservoirs are full to the brim. It didn't present any problems when I had the day hire boat up there but the restaurant boat opposite (71'6") couldn't wind at New Mills if the water was more than 6" down. The owners were continuously complaining to CRT about this, probably more than once a week, on average. The speculation is that keeping the water at 'maximum' would likely result in a breach. Yes it's just speculation, by why else would resources be limited when said resources are plentiful?
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Post by Gone on Aug 11, 2019 9:29:03 GMT
How many times have I read boaters moaning that there is never enough water in the Upper Peak Forest Canal? Why so? Perhaps CRT should send leaflets to every householder in Whaley Bridge telling them "Life's More Exciting By One of Our Dams". Are residents who have been evacuated entitled to compensation for their plight? Why is no-one interested in the residents of Whaley Bridge now that it seems the dam is not about to burst? What's the latest news, anyway? Seems to have all faded away. This pound is often kept at a low level even when all the feeder reservoirs are full to the brim. It didn't present any problems when I had the day hire boat up there but the restaurant boat opposite (71'6") couldn't wind at New Mills if the water was more than 6" down. The owners were continuously complaining to CRT about this, probably more than once a week, on average. The speculation is that keeping the water at 'maximum' would likely result in a breach. Yes it's just speculation, by why else would resources be limited when said resources are plentiful? It may be something as simple as CRT only check the reservoir every couple of days, and if the canal is a bit low, top it up whilst they are carrying out their inspection, then gone for a couple more days.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 11, 2019 11:11:19 GMT
This pound is often kept at a low level even when all the feeder reservoirs are full to the brim. It didn't present any problems when I had the day hire boat up there but the restaurant boat opposite (71'6") couldn't wind at New Mills if the water was more than 6" down. The owners were continuously complaining to CRT about this, probably more than once a week, on average. The speculation is that keeping the water at 'maximum' would likely result in a breach. Yes it's just speculation, by why else would resources be limited when said resources are plentiful? It may be something as simple as CRT only check the reservoir every couple of days, and if the canal is a bit low, top it up whilst they are carrying out their inspection, then gone for a couple more days. It may be. It would make more sense to allow enough water in constantly, based on their knowledge of typical lock usage and leakage, combined. Turning off the tap when the supply reservoirs are full makes no sense, unless they don't want the canal full...
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Post by Gone on Aug 11, 2019 11:25:56 GMT
It may be something as simple as CRT only check the reservoir every couple of days, and if the canal is a bit low, top it up whilst they are carrying out their inspection, then gone for a couple more days. It may be. It would make more sense to allow enough water in constantly, based on their knowledge of typical lock usage and leakage, combined. Turning off the tap when the supply reservoirs are full makes no sense, unless they don't want the canal full... Emmmm, tap on a bit too much, a few less boats, a bit of rain and overflowing canal, can’t see the CRT risk assessment allowing that, especially as there is no benefit to CRT in having a full canal, though there is for boaters.......
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Post by kris on Aug 11, 2019 11:32:50 GMT
It may be something as simple as CRT only check the reservoir every couple of days, and if the canal is a bit low, top it up whilst they are carrying out their inspection, then gone for a couple more days. unless they don't want the canal full... Cart don't want the canals full! This has been written about on here before. About four years ago some bright spark within cart worked out that buy lowering the levels of water in the network it would save water. Because something like 70% of the water that leaks, leaks form the top 3-4 inches of canal apparently. So by lowering the level water resources are saved,but it is a very short sighted "fix" because the banks dry out and crack so the level can not be raised again without a lot of work and obviously in some places it causes problems with navigation. But it is a deliberate policy decision on the part of carts managment. I have direct experience of this and know this to be true.
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