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Post by thebfg on Aug 14, 2019 22:14:03 GMT
Make a change from dead birds Rog I thought it was Mr Stabby who had dead birds in his cab. Normally wrapped in old carpet.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 15, 2019 5:40:56 GMT
I kind of agree about facebook. I don't put content up, definately don't post photos up there and there's none of my personal imformation on there. But I find it useful for gaining some info that isn't anywhere else. Oh and there are some funny videos. I sort of agree about facebook as well but I am a member of a couple of closed groups that are specific commercial and ex commercial barge groups. One is the Yorkshire ex-commercial barge club site which is ..... slow, last post 3 weeks ago slow. The other is very busy. It is a barges tugs and workboats on Humber site, It is building up an enormous and probably important historical picture archive of the Northeasts commercial boats and waterways. A large proportion of the members are either commercial boatmen/tug skippers owners of ex commercial vessels or retired boatmen or their relatives and the information there now is an historic goldmine. and I have contributed one or two photographs of boats to there.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 15, 2019 6:48:51 GMT
Would a bus like that not have a reversing camera? Easier sometimes just to back up and leave the meat head to his rant....... 1. Probably no reversing camera - the backs of buses get very dirty with the upsweep of all the muck on the road - and in Finland the backs of buses are a wall of snow. 2. When I was a PSV driver in England we were instructed NEVER to reverse with passengers on board - apparently illegal. In Finland they seem to waive this, I reverse every day in many places with my passengers aboard. My routes comprise spots where I have to 'turn around' one way or the other. 3. In a situation like this: a) consider everything. it might be best for the bus to reverse - have someone standing behind to ensure there's nothing behind. b) just phone to the cops, say the tattooed fathead is obstructing passage of public transport, that he is abusive and borderline violent/dangerous and upsetting the passengers on the bus. Then open the Daily Mail and have a browse until the fuzz turn up.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 15, 2019 6:51:47 GMT
He didn't exactly help himself with the T shirt and the personalised registration plate, and the only way that car would be worth £40,000 would be if it had £20,000's worth of pork pies in the back. But a better PR coup for the bus company if he'd let the fat oaf rant for a few minutes and reversed his coach (assuming he could do so safely) and waved him by. No one cares about bus companies' PR. Punters have no loyalty - they get on the first bus that comes their way. Always best to keep one's cool and behave impeccably and politely, keep in mind what you will be saying to the Police, your boss, and in Court. Make sure you get Fathead's address and personal details for revenge at a later stage in life.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 15, 2019 6:55:06 GMT
I kind of agree about facebook. I don't put content up, definately don't post photos up there and there's none of my personal imformation on there. But I find it useful for gaining some info that isn't anywhere else. Oh and there are some funny videos. I sort of agree about facebook as well but I am a member of a couple of closed groups that are specific Yes, it has its uses. I joined Facebook 17 years ago at my idiot brother's request, but soon jumped ship when miscellaneous weirdos wanted to befriend me.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 15, 2019 7:00:03 GMT
Would a bus like that not have a reversing camera? Easier sometimes just to back up and leave the meat head to his rant....... 1. Probably no reversing camera - the backs of buses get very dirty with the upsweep of all the muck on the road - and in Finland the backs of buses are a wall of snow. 2. When I was a PSV driver in England we were instructed NEVER to reverse with passengers on board - apparently illegal. In Finland they seem to waive this, I reverse every day in many places with my passengers aboard. My routes comprise spots where I have to 'turn around' one way or the other. 3. In a situation like this: a) consider everything. it might be best for the bus to reverse - have someone standing behind to ensure there's nothing behind. b) just phone to the cops, say the tattooed fathead is obstructing passage of public transport, that he is abusive and borderline violent/dangerous and upsetting the passengers on the bus. Then open the Daily Mail and have a browse until the fuzz turn up. I once had a fb debate with people who believed that it was illegal, well i have been on a few buses that have reversed. There is no such law.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 15, 2019 7:04:31 GMT
1. Probably no reversing camera - the backs of buses get very dirty with the upsweep of all the muck on the road - and in Finland the backs of buses are a wall of snow. 2. When I was a PSV driver in England we were instructed NEVER to reverse with passengers on board - apparently illegal. In Finland they seem to waive this, I reverse every day in many places with my passengers aboard. My routes comprise spots where I have to 'turn around' one way or the other. 3. In a situation like this: a) consider everything. it might be best for the bus to reverse - have someone standing behind to ensure there's nothing behind. b) just phone to the cops, say the tattooed fathead is obstructing passage of public transport, that he is abusive and borderline violent/dangerous and upsetting the passengers on the bus. Then open the Daily Mail and have a browse until the fuzz turn up. There is no such law. Then why were we told that it was against the law to reverse with passengers on the bus? London Country Bus Services, St Albans driving school department, 1986. Was it ever thus, or have things changed? Personally I see nothing wrong with it provided that it is safe to do so, and it is usually good to have one or two people behind a reversing vehicle to make sure there are no obstruction, not that someone zooms up behind you. It's always sickening to hear a crunch whilst reversing.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 15, 2019 7:06:56 GMT
"It is not illegal if you have another staff member on site to direct you, it is not usually allowed for a bus to be reversed with passengers without a second staff member to guide you due to it being difficult to see properly on your own due to not being able to see out of the back window with the internal mirror, people can be injured as pedestrians have a strange habit of walking behind reversing vehicles, it's hard in a car mid manoeuvre to realise a pedestrian is being that wreckless when you can see them, let alone on a bus when visibility is restricted, So it isn't illegal, but you need a second employee to guide your manoeuvre, usually the guiding person has to be another employee due to insurance" www.quora.com/Why-is-it-illegal-for-the-buses-in-the-UK-to-reverse
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 7:12:00 GMT
Good job you didn't work from Macclesfield bus station ... all bays are drive in reverse out.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 7:13:25 GMT
"It is not illegal if you have another staff member on site to direct you, it is not usually allowed for a bus to be reversed with passengers without a second staff member to guide you due to it being difficult to see properly on your own due to not being able to see out of the back window with the internal mirror, people can be injured as pedestrians have a strange habit of walking behind reversing vehicles, it's hard in a car mid manoeuvre to realise a pedestrian is being that wreckless when you can see them, let alone on a bus when visibility is restricted, So it isn't illegal, but you need a second employee to guide your manoeuvre, usually the guiding person has to be another employee due to insurance" www.quora.com/Why-is-it-illegal-for-the-buses-in-the-UK-to-reverseThat may apply to some bus companies who impose the second employee rule. Most companies in London do not apply it at most locations. I do remember having to get off buses as a youngster so they could reverse though - maybe the law was changed at some point.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 15, 2019 7:19:25 GMT
Good job you didn't work from Macclesfield bus station ... all bays are drive in reverse out. Rog Quite a few around us need to be reversed out of too. It is a company policy thing unless someine6 can actually show the law that forbids it.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 15, 2019 7:22:53 GMT
Perhaps it's an insurance rule for some companies? All I know is that we were told NOT to reverse with passengers on board - yes, I agree, a bit absurd. What would happen to those passengers if I bumped into something whilst reversing? Nothing.
During driving tests in the UK you are NOT allowed to cross your hands/arms on the steering wheel. In Finland you are allowed to swing the wheel round with one hand.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 7:30:39 GMT
Wonder if the insurance says no reversing with passengers aboard, if you do so then you are breaking the law due to having no insurance? Kind of pedantic argument some instructors would come up with...
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 15, 2019 7:37:29 GMT
Wonder if the insurance says no reversing with passengers aboard, if you do so then you are breaking the law due to having no insurance? Kind of pedantic argument some instructors would come up with... It's also questionable if I drive my bus outside my work hours - am i insured? It seems I am. For instance, I gave it a test run last Saturday around town - even though my contract didn't start until Monday. I have a 'permanent' contract with this company, and that seems to cover a multitude of stuff. Also, in Finland, anyone can drive anyone else's car, so long as they have permission of the owner and a valid driving licence. You don't need to contact the insurance company and pay more. Finland also has a good mobile phone network/signal that covers the whole country - unlike the UK. But then, there a few good pubs in Finland.
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