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Post by Telemachus on Aug 18, 2019 22:27:41 GMT
A boat sank on the moorings at Boroughbridge a few days ago. For those that don’t know, it is on the Ure. Which is the Ouse to most people! The moorings are fixed and there is a warning on the towpath in the exact location of the sunken boat. Apparently the boat was there unattended for a week or so - although of course we don’t know the circumstances - perhaps the owner was indisposed or had more important issues. Anyway, it is always a shame to see a sunken boat, regardless of circumstances. Whilst we were moored there for lunch on Thursday, a gang of northern blokes arrived with cones (to mark their territory), hi-viz (so we would all know they were important) and a couple of small portable pumps. I think they realised that the small pumps weren’t going to cut it, as some time later a large pump arrived. There was then a 30 minute discussion about where the keys for it were. Found eventually. The pump wasn’t sucking when we left, but I imagined it would, with a bit of fiddling. However no attempt was made to seal anything off, it seemed they imagined they would refloat it simply by sticking the large pump hose through the cabin roof-light, never mind water coming in through back doors, engine vents etc On our return 3 days later we were quite confident that it would all be resolved and the boat would be floating, drying out etc. But in fact it looked like this. Hmmm, so much for “professionals”! Back to the drawing board - or maybe the pub, to consider options.
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Post by duncan on Aug 18, 2019 22:35:44 GMT
A boat sank on the moorings at Boroughbridge a few days ago. For those that don’t know, it is on the Ure. Which is the Ouse to most people! The moorings are fixed and there is a warning on the towpath in the exact location of the sunken boat. Apparently the boat was there unattended for a week or so - although of course we don’t know the circumstances - perhaps the owner was indisposed or had more important issues. Anyway, it is always a shame to see a sunken boat, regardless of circumstances. Whilst we were moored there for lunch on Thursday, a gang of northern blokes arrived with cones (to mark their territory), hi-viz (so we would all know they were important) and a couple of small portable pumps. I think they realised that the small pumps weren’t going to cut it, as some time later a large pump arrived. There was then a 30 minute discussion about where the keys for it were. Found eventually. The pump wasn’t sucking when we left, but I imagined it would, with a bit of fiddling. However no attempt was made to seal anything off, it seemed they imagined they would refloat it simply by sticking the large pump hose through the cabin roof-light, never mind water coming in through back doors, engine vents etc On our return 3 days later we were quite confident that it would all be resolved and the boat would be floating, drying out etc. But in fact it looked like this. Hmmm, so much for “professionals”! Back to the drawing board - or maybe the pub, to consider options. As I understand, the first attempt was made by the owner and friends, and has now been passed to the insurance
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 22:51:05 GMT
It doesn't look like the water has been over the bank there recently.
Probably unrelated to water level I reckon. Could be something as simple as weed hatch seal.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 18, 2019 23:02:52 GMT
It doesn't look like the water has been over the bank there recently. Probably unrelated to water level I reckon. Could be something as simple as weed hatch seal. No, the river level was very high the previous weekend. Naburn lock (admittedly a long way downstream) was under water and there was flooding in York. Weed hatch seals don’t affect moored boats!
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Post by JohnV on Aug 19, 2019 5:21:42 GMT
Common sinker of boats is when the water goes down and leaves the boat cilled on the bank, possibly looking at the way it is lying, by the bow. The stern then floods.......... bingo
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 6:24:02 GMT
Pumps will get it up if it can beat the incoming water, you can never have too many! Not enough or two small and all you do is waste petrol. One big un on its own isn't the answer either as something will invariably block a suction pipe strainer. Having several on the go gives you a better chance. See here for salvage techniques. www.amazon.co.uk/Man-Who-Bought-Navy-Achievement/dp/B0012GPN4O
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Post by ianali on Aug 19, 2019 7:35:41 GMT
Has anyone come up with the idea of using airbags? Inflated inside the cabin.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 19, 2019 7:51:13 GMT
Has anyone come up with the idea of using airbags? Inflated inside the cabin. Probably not, . . but an enormous windbag started a thread about it yesterday on an internet boating forum !
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Post by JohnV on Aug 19, 2019 7:53:01 GMT
I have only seen it done once and it was successful on that occasion. However the conditions were a bit different ..... it was on a tidal stretch and the bags slid up into the cabin roof area as they inflated so it only raised the boat so far and the gunnels and deck were still under water. As it happened that was fine as they just towed it into the shallows at high water and then pumped it out when the tide went down and exposed the deck
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 19, 2019 7:59:44 GMT
Has anyone come up with the idea of using airbags? Inflated inside the cabin. I think that would risk putting a lot of force on fittings, bulkheads, windows etc. Maybe not a big deal if the interior has to be refitted anyway, but if there is a method that doesn’t carry this risk it’s probably the better one.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 19, 2019 8:04:09 GMT
Has anyone come up with the idea of using airbags? Inflated inside the cabin. Only stupid people like me would think of a crane. Or how about borrowing one of those helicopters from the Whaley Bridge dam? I mean, a helicopter could lift it up a bit at least.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 19, 2019 8:06:05 GMT
Has anyone come up with the idea of using airbags? Inflated inside the cabin. How about a hot air balloon? Or hydrogen-filled blimps?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 8:08:10 GMT
A boat sank on the moorings at Boroughbridge a few days ago. For those that don’t know, it is on the Ure. Which is the Ouse to most people! Not sure what you are meaning here. The Ure is a river in it's own right, in name. Yes it's effectively a continuation of the Ouse or rather the Ouse is a continuation of the Ure - but above a given point it's known as the Ure.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 19, 2019 8:14:07 GMT
A boat sank on the moorings at Boroughbridge a few days ago. For those that don’t know, it is on the Ure. Which is the Ouse to most people! Not sure what you are meaning here. The Ure is a river in it's own right, in name. Yes it's effectively a continuation of the Ouse or rather the Ouse is a continuation of the Ure - but above a given point it's known as the Ure. That was what I was meaning. It is the same river, different name. People not familiar with the area might presume that the river bears the same name throughout, which would not be an unreasonable assumption. And people might not immediately know where the Ure is, more people know where the Ouse is.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 19, 2019 8:16:06 GMT
The River Ure is a river in North Yorkshire, England, approximately 74 miles (119 km) long from its source to the point where it changes name to the River Ouse. It is the principal river of Wensleydale, which is the only one of the major Dales now named after a village rather than its river. The old name for the valley was Yoredale after the river that runs through it. The Ure is one of many rivers and waterways that drain the Dales into the River Ouse. Tributaries of the Ure include the River Swale and the River Skell. The source of the river is Ure Head on Abbotside Common where it flows west south-west to the valley floor and then turns south. Where it reaches the A684 it turns east along Wensleydale as far as Wensley. From here it flows south-east to Jervaulx Abbey and shortly after south to Mickley. Here it returns east and then south to Ripon. A little way after Ripon it flows east again to Boroughbridge. To the east of Boroughbridge, the Ure is joined by the River Swale. About 6 miles (9.7 km) downstream of this confluence, at Cuddy Shaw Reach near Linton-on-Ouse, the river changes its name to the River Ouse.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Ure
River Ure
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