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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 9:56:29 GMT
It doesn't look like the water has been over the bank there recently. Probably unrelated to water level I reckon. Could be something as simple as weed hatch seal. Weed hatch seals don’t affect moored boats! They do if the water level rises and the boat is pulled lower in the water. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 9:57:56 GMT
As for airbags one of the Thames contractors sunk an open barge in about 1996 coincidentally exactly where I am now moored at Cookham. This was raised using airbags.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 19, 2019 10:46:28 GMT
Weed hatch seals don’t affect moored boats! They do if the water level rises and the boat is pulled lower in the water. Yes that is true. But a lot of narrowboats have engine air vents etc not far above the water line, they too can sink a lowered boat. |
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 19, 2019 10:46:50 GMT
As for airbags one of the Thames contractors sunk an open barge in about 1996 coincidentally exactly where I am now moored at Cookham. This was raised using airbags. On the outside presumably, not on the inside. |
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Post by greenman on Aug 19, 2019 11:24:16 GMT
I've seen recent pictures of River Canal Rescue using airbags during boat refloats.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 19, 2019 19:20:13 GMT
What will the insurance company do with this boat? I'm no expert but it's been down a while and will probably need a full fit out. A lot will depend on cover and might explain the DIY recovery. Ive no idea on costings and I presume some would get written off if the shell ain't very good. I suppose and others will know, I am sure they will pay for recovery. Depending on cover but would they decline to pay for full refit and only cover some parts because the owner has left it so long before getting them involved. Because that will have caused more damage. |
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Post by patty on Aug 19, 2019 20:05:40 GMT
What will the insurance company do with this boat? I'm no expert but it's been down a while and will probably need a full fit out. A lot will depend on cover and might explain the DIY recovery. Ive no idea on costings and I presume some would get written off if the shell ain't very good. I suppose and others will know, I am sure they will pay for recovery. Depending on cover but would they decline to pay for full refit and only cover some parts because the owner has left it so long before getting them involved. Because that will have caused more damage. Youngest son's been involved in refloating a couple of Narrowboats but not sure how long after the event he was called in...he has done some work for an agency that gets pulled in sometimes to inspect locks etc |
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Post by deadly on Aug 19, 2019 21:41:46 GMT
Pumps will get it up if it can beat the incoming water, you can never have too many! Not enough or two small and all you do is waste petrol. One big un on its own isn't the answer either as something will invariably block a suction pipe strainer. Having several on the go gives you a better chance. See here for salvage techniques. www.amazon.co.uk/Man-Who-Bought-Navy-Achievement/dp/B0012GPN4OThe big one we had when we re-floated mine could suck a dent in the surface of the canal! 4 inch pipe, 4 cylinder diesel.
I have a 3" 5hp stood by for emergencies, as well as access to 3 or 4 240v submersibles, just telling you all in case anyone around here ever finds themselves in dire circumstances.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 20, 2019 3:13:58 GMT
from the insurance point of view, wreck recovery is normally part of even a third party only insurance cover.
If your vessel sinks in a river/estuary/harbour etc the navigation authority can demand you remove the wreck as a hazard to navigation or they will remove it at your cost ..... either way a third party claim
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 6:43:14 GMT
Pumps will get it up if it can beat the incoming water, you can never have too many! Not enough or two small and all you do is waste petrol. One big un on its own isn't the answer either as something will invariably block a suction pipe strainer. Having several on the go gives you a better chance. See here for salvage techniques. www.amazon.co.uk/Man-Who-Bought-Navy-Achievement/dp/B0012GPN4OThe big one we had when we re-floated mine could suck a dent in the surface of the canal! 4 inch pipe, 4 cylinder diesel.
I have a 3" 5hp stood by for emergencies, as well as access to 3 or 4 240v submersibles, just telling you all in case anyone around here ever finds themselves in dire circumstances.
Fingers crossed they are never needed! We have a couple of good 240v submersibles and a 2" pump at the club, thankfully not needed in the time I've been there. Peterborough have an ex fire service pump with a four cylinder motor, takes a couple of good blokes to shift it but by golly does it pump! Sadly they have had cause to use it on a couple of occasions. |
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Post by JohnV on Aug 20, 2019 6:53:49 GMT
The big one we had when we re-floated mine could suck a dent in the surface of the canal! 4 inch pipe, 4 cylinder diesel.
I have a 3" 5hp stood by for emergencies, as well as access to 3 or 4 240v submersibles, just telling you all in case anyone around here ever finds themselves in dire circumstances.
Fingers crossed they are never needed! for all of us !!! Like you Gazza, I have pumps, you can never have too many, a 1.5" petrol, a 240v 1.5" self priming (ha ha ha), a 240v submersible plus 3 built in 24v bilge pumps (add to that the dire emergency method of turning off the sea valve and taking the top off the weed box) |
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Post by kris on Aug 20, 2019 10:01:14 GMT
Pumps will get it up if it can beat the incoming water, you can never have too many! Not enough or two small and all you do is waste petrol. One big un on its own isn't the answer either as something will invariably block a suction pipe strainer. Having several on the go gives you a better chance. See here for salvage techniques. www.amazon.co.uk/Man-Who-Bought-Navy-Achievement/dp/B0012GPN4OThe big one we had when we re-floated mine could suck a dent in the surface of the canal! 4 inch pipe, 4 cylinder diesel.
I have a 3" 5hp stood by for emergencies, as well as access to 3 or 4 240v submersibles, just telling you all in case anyone around here ever finds themselves in dire circumstances.
That's well worth knowing, thanks a lot deadly. Like John and gazza I've got a few pumps, but in an emergency it's good to know there are more available. |
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Post by airedaleman on Aug 20, 2019 15:34:17 GMT
When one of our loaded narrowboats started to take on water the steerer rang the fire brigade and then me. I jumped in the car and got to the roundabout near red hill to see the fire engine going round it. I waved them down and took them to the bridge where the boat was.(I had driven)45miles. They lugged the pump down the bank and put the pipe in the back end and it really shifted the water, they then put it in the fore end and promptly sucked up a lump of coal, no strainer. Sorry chaps said the officer and off they went. The pump was by Coventry Godiva powered I think.
We got the boat through the bridge hole to an old wharf and plugged the 12volt submersible onto my cars battery keeping the engine running, the boats battery and engine had been in the water. Bailed away with buckets and got most of it out, shoveled some coal off the floor and found a small split on the chine angle. Plugged it with rags wedged down by a block of wood and a broom handle under the gunwale. Luckily the Steerers bed never got wet so he light his stove and I went home by then after midnight.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 15:38:48 GMT
I have 5 standard black plastic buckets on my boat.
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Post by Jim on Aug 20, 2019 16:38:18 GMT
I have 5 standard black plastic buckets on my boat. Not much use unless you have 4 slaves to make a bucket chain as well. |
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