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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2019 7:01:06 GMT
These travellers had caused problems, it seems for a while. We were warned about this very bunch (herd?) from Theale 2 weeks ago. They have thieved worked very hard to get their reputation. 'Pikeys' and 'Travellers' are a cancer on society. Their behaviour makes it obvious. But - here's a laugh - the rich "don't like it up 'em!" !! "Good it's about time the rich elite got a bit of it." "A group of travellers appeared on the same site last year and were evicted from near E l to n John’s home" www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7374643/Travellers-invade-stockbroker-belt.html#reader-comments
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2019 7:02:50 GMT
But its not just Pikeys is it?..they r seem as lowlife by many but their attitude runs through many aspects of society.. Not at all, Pats. There are the Chaves of Abingdon and the Scungers of Newbury. I have seen them and they ain't pleasant.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 7:06:46 GMT
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2019 7:20:41 GMT
Why are local councils paying for the clearing up of rubbish left by "gypsies"? Why not make the "gypsies" do the cleaning up themselves? Or seize and sell their (expensive!) vehicles to help pay for it.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2019 7:24:53 GMT
No mention of 'pikeys' in that report. Anyway, as we all know, most batteries are chucked into 'landfill' and quietly forgotten about. Grow some grass over it and we have a scenic hill! If you don't believe me, go to Cannock Recycling Centre and have a gander at that MOUNTAIN of rubbish just to the south. I don't see anyone 'sorting' through this lot, do you? Just bury it and pretend it doesn't exist.
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Post by lollygagger on Aug 21, 2019 7:51:50 GMT
40 years ago I worked with 2 families of pikeys picking hops and apples. They were...lovely people, they worked hard, didn't nick anything and their camp on the farm was spotless.
But the world has moved on and that way of life moving from farm to farm WORKING has disappeared.I do wonder what became of the kids they had with them.
Similarly, there are underclasses of Brits that used to work in factories, live in spotless houses etc. This lot also now litter everywhere, chuck sofas in the canal, shoplift, mug old ladies and steal everything from your garden shed. They aren't pikeys.
I'm not defending pikeys, but unfortunately for them they are an easily identifiable group among a much bigger but more blurred problem to aim ones frustrations. It's little wonder they feel singled out in a world where their behaviour is commonplace and that they stick together. I think the biggest difference is they shit in otherwise nice areas rather than on their own doorstep.
This is a generalised post, for the avoidance of doubt on the subject of killing the policeman they should and will be prosecuted just like everyone else.
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Post by bodger on Aug 21, 2019 9:15:24 GMT
40 years ago I worked with 2 families of pikeys picking hops and apples. They were...lovely people, they worked hard, didn't nick anything and their camp on the farm was spotless. But the world has moved on and that way of life moving from farm to farm WORKING has disappeared.I do wonder what became of the kids they had with them. Similarly, there are underclasses of Brits that used to work in factories, live in spotless houses etc. This lot also now litter everywhere, chuck sofas in the canal, shoplift, mug old ladies and steal everything from your garden shed. They aren't pikeys. I'm not defending pikeys, but unfortunately for them they are an easily identifiable group among a much bigger but more blurred problem to aim ones frustrations. It's little wonder they feel singled out in a world where their behaviour is commonplace and that they stick together. I think the biggest difference is they shit in otherwise nice areas rather than on their own doorstep. This is a generalised post, for the avoidance of doubt on the subject of killing the policeman they should and will be prosecuted just like everyone else. the difference is that pikeys are a separate ethnic group descended from Irish travellers who choose to live in a closed community with clear unwritten rules about how they behave, and they will band together to defend any members of their community who are harassed by the fuzz or anyone else. Their culture includes extreme violence, well portrayed in Snatch. the 'underclasses' you refer to are a by-product of modern society but, apart from organised gangs (drugs, trafficking, etc.), they do not see themselves as a separate community. generally they do accept the law of the land exists, even if they sometimes (often?) do not respect it.
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Post by bodger on Aug 21, 2019 9:26:23 GMT
Your credibility is lost due to comparing apples and oranges. “Lorry driver” is an occupation. “Pikey” is... ...another term describing an occupation which involves parking your fleet of 4x4 cars, caravans and mobile homes on any green spot you fancy, generally shitting up the place with rubbish then moving on when the stink becomes too unbearable, tarmaccing people's drives whilst they're away at work and then demanding payment with menaces, and thieving. "Am yet to find one positive that 'travellers' bring to society." never mind the fact that they contribute nothing to the local and national treasuries, but demand council services whenever it suits them, meanwhile happily driving around in top of the range SUVs and living in top of the range caravans that most law-abiding citizens could never afford. scum.
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Post by deadly on Aug 21, 2019 10:48:13 GMT
"A man has appeared in court charged with murdering a police officer who was killed while investigating a burglary. Jed Foster, 20, appeared at Reading Magistrates' Court charged with the murder of 28-year-old PC Andrew Harper, and the theft of a quad bike. PC Harper, of Thames Valley Police, died on Thursday after being dragged along the road by a vehicle in Sulhamstead, Berkshire. Mr Foster has been remanded to appear at Reading Crown Court on Wednesday". www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-49405179Now, if I was charged with murder of a police officer, I'm sure I would be described as "a lorry driver" yet there seems to be a complete news blackout on describing Jed Foster as "a pikey". And I can't help feeling that if the Police had been less timid in their dealings with pikeys in the past then there might be no need for all this hand-wringing about the "death of one of their own". Why are these people allowed to thieve with impunity? Irrespective of his background or where he comes from there is a developing sub class in our society that seem to think they are above the law and can act with impunity. This is typified by this low lifes mother who is clearly in some sort of denial claiming 'he wasnt even there' whilst clutching a superman teddy. Some people just dont think the law and rules apply to them, they they will lie to authorities all the way through life as long as it protects themselves and their immediate family. If this fella is found guilty he should hang as I suggested in another thread. That might act as a deterrant to the current wave of attacks on our police forces. Our police should be routinely armed too. If they had shot the lowlife on scene Andrew Harper may have been able to go on his honeymoon this week.
The police are a developing sub class that seem to think they are above the law and can act with impunity.
This policeman was killed by his own colleagues, not by the pikey, he was run down and dragged by another police vehicle.
If you're going to hang someone, how about hanging the one who actually did the killing? might act as a deterrent to the current wave of police brutality.
They're not "our" police, haven't been since the '67 reform act.
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Post by bodger on Aug 21, 2019 10:56:06 GMT
perhaps you are being economical with the truth, creating fake news.
he was dragged for hundreds of yards by a van before being thrown clear, at which point a pursuing police car hit him. Perhaps you are from the elfinsafety brigade who might prefer that the driver of the police vehicle should have done a risk assessment for approval by HQ before he took off in pursuit.
where do you find the evidence that the van was a police vehicle, driven by a policeman?
perhaps you would also like to clarify your reference to the 1967 reform act?
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2019 11:02:19 GMT
Irrespective of his background or where he comes from there is a developing sub class in our society that seem to think they are above the law and can act with impunity. This is typified by this low lifes mother who is clearly in some sort of denial claiming 'he wasnt even there' whilst clutching a superman teddy. Some people just dont think the law and rules apply to them, they they will lie to authorities all the way through life as long as it protects themselves and their immediate family. If this fella is found guilty he should hang as I suggested in another thread. That might act as a deterrant to the current wave of attacks on our police forces. Our police should be routinely armed too. If they had shot the lowlife on scene Andrew Harper may have been able to go on his honeymoon this week.
The police are a developing sub class that seem to think they are above the law and can act with impunity.
This policeman was killed by his own colleagues, not by the pikey, he was run down and dragged by another police vehicle.
If you're going to hang someone, how about hanging the one who actually did the killing? might act as a deterrent to the current wave of police brutality.
They're not "our" police, haven't been since the '67 reform act.
Yes, I read that in the first article I saw (Guardian newspaper, I think). Main cause of death being bonked by a cop's jam jar. A case of careless driving? Still, I'd have all the 'Irish' ones deported back to Ireland, let the Irish look after their own and have their fields filled with junk.
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Post by lollygagger on Aug 21, 2019 11:05:42 GMT
...however, that's the first I've heard of him being hit by a police car so he isn't the only one being economical with the truth?
I admit I don't follow the news but a google search brings up no mention of police involvement in the death of a colleague.
Edit to add: Yes I now find initial reports mention he was hit by a cop car but that seems to have been conveniently air brushed out of any articles since the first day. However if he hadn't been dragged down the road by the pikey in the first place it wouldn't have happened so maybe it's a red herring.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2019 11:09:44 GMT
Yup - look it up. Seems to have been hushed up, so maybe not available any more.
The UK is in a somewhat sorry state all round in many matters.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2019 11:15:50 GMT
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Post by lollygagger on Aug 21, 2019 11:22:16 GMT
Yes I did find that one eventually and edited my post. Still...he did do it, he didn't stop, he's a murdering thieving pikey twat however you look at it.
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