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Post by thebfg on Aug 21, 2019 11:37:24 GMT
What was he charged with? can't see murder sticking. Too high a bar to prove.
Eta it appears to murder. They will have prove prior intent.
Wonder if they will plead not guilty but accept manslaughter or similar. Out in 5.
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Post by bills on Aug 21, 2019 11:49:58 GMT
Irrespective of his background or where he comes from there is a developing sub class in our society that seem to think they are above the law and can act with impunity. This is typified by this low lifes mother who is clearly in some sort of denial claiming 'he wasnt even there' whilst clutching a superman teddy. Some people just dont think the law and rules apply to them, they they will lie to authorities all the way through life as long as it protects themselves and their immediate family. If this fella is found guilty he should hang as I suggested in another thread. That might act as a deterrant to the current wave of attacks on our police forces. Our police should be routinely armed too. If they had shot the lowlife on scene Andrew Harper may have been able to go on his honeymoon this week.
This policeman was killed by his own colleagues, not by the pikey, he was run down and dragged by another police vehicle.
Do you have some information that is not in the public domain, or are you just making it up to fit an agenda?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 12:02:26 GMT
Irrespective of his background or where he comes from there is a developing sub class in our society that seem to think they are above the law and can act with impunity. This is typified by this low lifes mother who is clearly in some sort of denial claiming 'he wasnt even there' whilst clutching a superman teddy. Some people just dont think the law and rules apply to them, they they will lie to authorities all the way through life as long as it protects themselves and their immediate family. If this fella is found guilty he should hang as I suggested in another thread. That might act as a deterrant to the current wave of attacks on our police forces. Our police should be routinely armed too. If they had shot the lowlife on scene Andrew Harper may have been able to go on his honeymoon this week.
The police are a developing sub class that seem to think they are above the law and can act with impunity.
This policeman was killed by his own colleagues, not by the pikey, he was run down and dragged by another police vehicle.
If you're going to hang someone, how about hanging the one who actually did the killing? might act as a deterrent to the current wave of police brutality.
They're not "our" police, haven't been since the '67 reform act.
Not even worth dignifying with a response, other than the only people who seem to have a problem with the police are the ones who seem to be constantly on the wrong side of the law.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 12:09:14 GMT
This policeman was killed by his own colleagues, not by the pikey, he was run down and dragged by another police vehicle.
Do you have some information that is not in the public domain, or are you just making it up to fit an agenda? Even if he was struck by another police vehicle, and I feel desperately sorry for the copper driving if he was, then it doesn't really matter. The fact remains he wouldn't have been in that position had it not been for the actions of another person. The police and CPS must believe they have at least a 50% chance of making the murder charge stick so they obviously believe it wasn't the other officer ultimately responsible for his death. They must believe it was the direct responsibility of another, in this case the person charged. Deadly's rather misguided appraisal of the situation is well wide of the mark and typical of the anti police tripe you see posted on YouTube and other social media. Saying the other police officer is at fault would be like saying if somebody gets thrown off a building and is then hit by a car it's the fault of the car driver if they are killed. It's plain nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 12:10:42 GMT
What was he charged with? can't see murder sticking. Too high a bar to prove. Eta it appears to murder. They will have prove prior intent. Wonder if they will plead not guilty but accept manslaughter or similar. Out in 5.I think ultimately this is exactly the way it's heading. But I hope not.
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Post by thebfg on Aug 21, 2019 12:56:48 GMT
What was he charged with? can't see murder sticking. Too high a bar to prove. Eta it appears to murder. They will have prove prior intent. Wonder if they will plead not guilty but accept manslaughter or similar. Out in 5.I think ultimately this is exactly the way it's heading. But I hope not. I hope not too, I've just down some digging and the starting point is a whole life sentence for murdering a policeman. No parole, it was 30 minimum but I beleive they changed it. I will do some digging as to the charge, it must be something to do with him being a copper.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2019 16:52:15 GMT
The police are a developing sub class that seem to think they are above the law and can act with impunity.
This policeman was killed by his own colleagues, not by the pikey, he was run down and dragged by another police vehicle.
If you're going to hang someone, how about hanging the one who actually did the killing? might act as a deterrent to the current wave of police brutality.
They're not "our" police, haven't been since the '67 reform act.
Not even worth dignifying with a response, other than the only people who seem to have a problem with the police are the ones who seem to be constantly on the wrong side of the law. Like coal miners who are just trying to make ends meet. Who here fancies working down a coal mine? Damp, wet, dark, dangerous - and your final pay packet is silicosis. The Poles, despite chanting "Solidarity" then, were more than happy to sell their coal to the UK whilst our coal miners were striking for better pay and conditions. There's 'Solidarity' for you!
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2019 16:56:01 GMT
What are these 'Irish Travellers' doing in England in the first place? Is this a matter of "Diversity is our Strength" ? Why not stay in Ireland to make Ireland stronger? Another reason to get out of the EU as soon as possible (ie. 3 years ago!!). Too lazy to clean up after themselves. Don't worry, the local Council will send someone round. Rates to rise.
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Post by bodger on Aug 21, 2019 17:09:32 GMT
We had a similar rubbish dumping incident at Severn Beach. Pikeys abandoned a short stay park they had established, where most of the 'residents' were scrap merchants. They had dumped everything they collected near their vans, sorted out the good stuff and left the rest. The council tried to get rid of them, eventually there was no space left for scrap and rubbish so they moved on of their own accord. The council caught up with them and offered to help them load out the rubbish if they agreed to truck it away. The site was left as clean as a whistle. A week later the same rubbish was found in a woodland area belonging to the neighbouring authority.
Quite simply - the scum of the earth.
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Post by leyther on Aug 21, 2019 22:19:11 GMT
"A man has appeared in court charged with murdering a police officer who was killed while investigating a burglary. Jed Foster, 20, appeared at Reading Magistrates' Court charged with the murder of 28-year-old PC Andrew Harper, and the theft of a quad bike. PC Harper, of Thames Valley Police, died on Thursday after being dragged along the road by a vehicle in Sulhamstead, Berkshire. Mr Foster has been remanded to appear at Reading Crown Court on Wednesday". www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-49405179Now, if I was charged with murder of a police officer, I'm sure I would be described as "a lorry driver" yet there seems to be a complete news blackout on describing Jed Foster as "a pikey". And I can't help feeling that if the Police had been less timid in their dealings with pikeys in the past then there might be no need for all this hand-wringing about the "death of one of their own". Why are these people allowed to thieve with impunity? Your credibility is lost due to comparing apples and oranges. “Lorry driver” is an occupation. “Pikey” is a term of abuse that refers to an ethnic group. I know you didn’t go to a proper school but surely even you can understand that an ethnic group descriptor doesn’t equate to a job descriptor. But that said, according to the Daily Mail yes you are right, due to PC, Pikeys do rob with impunity and get away with murder. Oh, maybe not quite that last bit. I have to agree with your penultimate sentence. Time will tell.........
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 22, 2019 7:13:46 GMT
Today's churning-out, doesn't really say much: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7379865/Sister-PC-Andrew-Harpers-killer-defends-online.htmlComments not allowed. I wonder why not. Actually, I don't. It's an effnic minority innit? The people of Theale already knew these 'travellers' were trouble - how comes the Police hadn't a clue? Looky here: "Villagers defend their decision to dig trench to stop traveller encroachments" "Villagers in Theale armed themselves with spades earlier this week to dig a trench around Woodfield Way in a bid to stop “intimidating” groups from returning to the area. "Residents cited a lack of action from Thames Valley Police and West Berkshire Council before deciding to make their own fortifications along the green, located in the northern part of the village" If only Thames Valley Police had acted sooner, Andrew Harper would probably still be alive. www.newburytoday.co.uk/news/home/24496/theale-residents-react-to-disrespectful-trench-comments.html
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Post by bodger on Aug 22, 2019 11:15:58 GMT
the good citizens and especially the political and religious leaders of this country are very quick to criticise ethnic cleansing carried out in other countries.
perhaps we should sit back and think about it a bit more deeply - if we were the residents of Theale, how would we feel about these scum? would we understand if they managed to drive these tribal scum out of their neighbourhood, and they kept being forced out wherever they went until they were all pushed over the white cliffs of Dover?
I'm sure there are 'good pikeys', but the tribal element must be extinguished if we are ever to live in peace with such folk.
as the world gets more and more crowded, and individuals demand a larger share of the space, the amenities and the natural resources, we are likely to see more and more of this type of issue.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 22, 2019 13:49:15 GMT
I'm sure there are 'good pikeys'
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Post by deadly on Aug 22, 2019 15:04:07 GMT
Not even worth dignifying with a response, other than the only people who seem to have a problem with the police are the ones who seem to be constantly on the wrong side of the law. Amazing how the fallacious arguments flow like water any time someone suggests the police may be something other than demigods.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 15:13:54 GMT
Not even worth dignifying with a response, other than the only people who seem to have a problem with the police are the ones who seem to be constantly on the wrong side of the law. Amazing how the fallacious arguments flow like water any time someone suggests the police may be something other than demigods.Which of course I have never actually suggested.
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