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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 10:23:53 GMT
Yes but I'm in Mensa so just doing the right thing
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Post by samsam on Sept 24, 2019 10:25:48 GMT
If all the next generation of women were like Greta, that would solve the overpopulation problem PDQ. Bet not accepted under any circumstance.
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Post by kris on Sept 24, 2019 10:26:48 GMT
As for electric cars: There's more dirty energy used in the life cycle of any car than is expelled from its exhaust pipe, if it has one. Ore possibly mined in Australia, then shipped (Dirty) to China. Steel made from the ore (dirty) then shipped (dirty) to various steel stockholders across the world. Steel shipped (dirty) or road hauled (dirty) to various component manufacturers across the world. Components shipped (dirty) or road hauled (dirty) to assembly plants across the world. Completed cars shipped (dirty) or road hauled (dirty) to car showrooms across the world. Hapless customer then buys brand new electric car, smug with the thought that he or she is saving the world but they are so stupid, the best thing for the world would be for them to keep their existing car running, regardless of how it's propelled. World economic activity is due to triple by 2050, when we're due to be 'carbon free'. 3 times as many cars on the road, each more damaging than the ones already manufactured because most of the damage comes from manufacture, not use. Doesn't look great, does it. Of course, much of this damage could be avoided if production cycles were more local, rather than global. That's no good though, racist innit. Surely it would make more sense to stop making cars and just use the ones we already have?
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Post by kris on Sept 24, 2019 10:27:38 GMT
Yes but I'm in Mensa so just doing the right thing Thats okay then. Are you sure you dont mean mencap?
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Post by samsam on Sept 24, 2019 10:28:35 GMT
Short answer, yes.
But what to do with all the human robots that make new ones?
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Post by kris on Sept 24, 2019 10:30:20 GMT
Short answer, yes. But what to do with all the human robots that make new ones? Universal income.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 24, 2019 10:33:56 GMT
As for electric cars: There's more dirty energy used in the life cycle of any car than is expelled from its exhaust pipe, if it has one. Ore possibly mined in Australia, then shipped (Dirty) to China. Steel made from the ore (dirty) then shipped (dirty) to various steel stockholders across the world. Steel shipped (dirty) or road hauled (dirty) to various component manufacturers across the world. Components shipped (dirty) or road hauled (dirty) to assembly plants across the world. Completed cars shipped (dirty) or road hauled (dirty) to car showrooms across the world. Hapless customer then buys brand new electric car, smug with the thought that he or she is saving the world but they are so stupid, the best thing for the world would be for them to keep their existing car running, regardless of how it's propelled. World economic activity is due to triple by 2050, when we're due to be 'carbon free'. 3 times as many cars on the road, each more damaging than the ones already manufactured because most of the damage comes from manufacture, not use. Doesn't look great, does it. Of course, much of this damage could be avoided if production cycles were more local, rather than global. That's no good though, racist innit. Surely it would make more sense to stop making cars and just use the ones we already have? Yes of course but how would that fit with the capitalist model that seeks perpetual growth; a significant factor of which is obsolescence, in order that the capitalists can continues to make things and make fortunes while handing a few crumbs down to the ever growing hordes of folk working to enable this?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 10:40:49 GMT
If all the next generation of women were like Greta, that would solve the overpopulation problem PDQ. Bet not accepted under any circumstance. Sex robots, increase in the percentage of todger dodgers and bone smugglers would probably help somewhat
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 11:08:34 GMT
If all the next generation of women were like Greta, that would solve the overpopulation problem PDQ. Bet not accepted under any circumstance. Sex robots, increase in the percentage of todger dodgers and bone smugglers would probably help somewhat You could always borrow Shania....
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 24, 2019 11:20:41 GMT
As for electric cars: There's more dirty energy used in the life cycle of any car than is expelled from its exhaust pipe, if it has one. Ore possibly mined in Australia, then shipped (Dirty) to China. Steel made from the ore (dirty) then shipped (dirty) to various steel stockholders across the world. Steel shipped (dirty) or road hauled (dirty) to various component manufacturers across the world. Components shipped (dirty) or road hauled (dirty) to assembly plants across the world. Completed cars shipped (dirty) or road hauled (dirty) to car showrooms across the world. Hapless customer then buys brand new electric car, smug with the thought that he or she is saving the world but they are so stupid, the best thing for the world would be for them to keep their existing car running, regardless of how it's propelled. World economic activity is due to triple by 2050, when we're due to be 'carbon free'. 3 times as many cars on the road, each more damaging than the ones already manufactured because most of the damage comes from manufacture, not use. Doesn't look great, does it. Of course, much of this damage could be avoided if production cycles were more local, rather than global. That's no good though, racist innit. Surely it would make more sense to stop making cars and just use the ones we already have? The Capitalist economic system requires two things which by their nature are wasteful of the earth's resources, an ever-increasing population level and the manufacture and sale of goods.
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Post by kris on Sept 24, 2019 11:24:57 GMT
Surely it would make more sense to stop making cars and just use the ones we already have? Yes of course but how would that fit with the capitalist model that seeks perpetual growth; a significant factor of which is obsolescence, in order that the capitalists can continues to make things and make fortunes while handing a few crumbs down to the ever growing hordes of folk working to enable this? So what are you going to do about it? At least this young lady is doing something even if she looks like "a mong."
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Post by kris on Sept 24, 2019 11:26:00 GMT
Surely it would make more sense to stop making cars and just use the ones we already have? The Capitalist economic system requires two things which by their nature are wasteful of the earth's resources, an ever-increasing population level and the manufacture and sale of goods. Yes im aware of this, but what are we going to do about it.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 24, 2019 11:29:44 GMT
The Capitalist economic system requires two things which by their nature are wasteful of the earth's resources, an ever-increasing population level and the manufacture and sale of goods. Yes im aware of this, but what are we going to do about it. Nothing. I expect though that at some stage, Mother Nature will decide that remedial action is required.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 11:31:11 GMT
This calls for immediate discussion
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Post by kris on Sept 24, 2019 11:35:32 GMT
Yes im aware of this, but what are we going to do about it. Nothing. I expect though that at some stage, Mother Nature will decide that remedial action is required. Yes nature will rid itself of the cancer that is the human race. It just seems ridiculous that 99% of humamity are goingto let 1% dictate that our civilisation goes to the wall just to protect their finnacial interests.
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