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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 15:28:54 GMT
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 5, 2019 16:44:11 GMT
No big deal, . the heel post bottom fitting has come out of it's cup. Ten minutes with a suitable jack and couple of lengths of rope to fix it !
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Post by Jim on Oct 5, 2019 17:06:38 GMT
No big deal, . the heel post bottom fitting has come out of it's cup. Ten minutes with a suitable jack and couple of lengths of rope to fix it ! Nah, don't be old fashioned, a week to do a 10 page risk assessment on site, a week to put the arris fencing up, scaffold the lock 1 week, 2 months to get access for the crane, 8 supervisors on site to order the old style lengthsman (who knows his job but is retiring next week) about and making it worse. Etc etc.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 18:00:10 GMT
No big deal, . the heel post bottom fitting has come out of it's cup. Ten minutes with a suitable jack and couple of lengths of rope to fix it ! I have been predicting shattering pots/cups for a while. They used to be a standard maintenance item. I wonder if this is my prediction coming true ... Not got a photo of the pot and pin from a GU lock but it's basically a 4x3x3 inch cuboid cast iron pot and the pin goes in a round 2 inch hole about inch and a half deep. This hole wears and goes oval. Then if not replaced will breach the sides of the pot and split the pot open. This is what I tell everyone I meet and talk about locks with. One of these is going to shatter because they do not seem to be being replaced any more. Moan over I'm getting off the ditches thank the lord. Nice easy one to blame on a boater.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 18:01:28 GMT
Canal infrastructure is very well made but NOT everlasting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 18:09:05 GMT
No big deal, . the heel post bottom fitting has come out of it's cup. Ten minutes with a suitable jack and couple of lengths of rope to fix it ! I have been predicting shattering pots/cups for a while. They used to be a standard maintenance item. I wonder if this is my prediction coming true ... Not got a photo of the pot and pin from a GU lock but it's basically a 4x3x3 inch cuboid cast iron pot and the pin goes in a round 2 inch hole about inch and a half deep. This hole wears and goes oval. Then if not replaced will breach the sides of the pot and split the pot open. This is what I tell everyone I meet and talk about locks with. One of these is going to shatter because they do not seem to be being replaced any more. Moan over I'm getting off the ditches thank the lord. Nice easy one to blame on a boater. Its a very interesting point you make but maybe more than co-incidental that both have failed simultaneously... also it doesn't account for the shattered woodwork but I guess that could have happened previously.
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Post by kris on Oct 5, 2019 18:18:09 GMT
No big deal, . the heel post bottom fitting has come out of it's cup. Ten minutes with a suitable jack and couple of lengths of rope to fix it ! This is what I tell everyone I meet and talk about locks with. One of these is going to shatter because they do not seem to be being replaced any more. Moan over I'm getting off the ditches thank the lord Got something to tell us about the boat you went to see to day?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 18:19:25 GMT
I didn't realise it was both gates. I thought it was just the one in first and last images.
I see what you mean about the split wood I had not inspected pictures properly.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 5, 2019 18:20:28 GMT
I have been predicting shattering pots/cups for a while. They used to be a standard maintenance item. I wonder if this is my prediction coming true ... Not got a photo of the pot and pin from a GU lock but it's basically a 4x3x3 inch cuboid cast iron pot and the pin goes in a round 2 inch hole about inch and a half deep. This hole wears and goes oval. Then if not replaced will breach the sides of the pot and split the pot open. This is what I tell everyone I meet and talk about locks with. One of these is going to shatter because they do not seem to be being replaced any more. Moan over I'm getting off the ditches thank the lord. Nice easy one to blame on a boater. Its a very interesting point you make but maybe more than co-incidental that both have failed simultaneously... also it doesn't account for the shattered woodwork but I guess that could have happened previously. What makes you think there's a problem with both top gates ? Only the inside gate is out of it's cup !
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 18:20:59 GMT
This is what I tell everyone I meet and talk about locks with. One of these is going to shatter because they do not seem to be being replaced any more. Moan over I'm getting off the ditches thank the lord Got something to tell us about the boat you went to see to day? New thread on boatbuilding / maintenance
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 18:21:46 GMT
Its a very interesting point you make but maybe more than co-incidental that both have failed simultaneously... also it doesn't account for the shattered woodwork but I guess that could have happened previously. What makes you think there's a problem with both top gates ? Only the inside gate is out of it's cup ! He's referring to the split in the wood on the other gate which to be fair does look quite recent. Someone has hit those gates hard recently. A wide bluff- bowed barge has indeed lifted the gates. Maybe the fact this wood split is what saved the other gate from being lifted out of the pot.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 18:39:44 GMT
Its a very interesting point you make but maybe more than co-incidental that both have failed simultaneously... also it doesn't account for the shattered woodwork but I guess that could have happened previously. What makes you think there's a problem with both top gates ? Only the inside gate is out of it's cup ! It sure looks like both are on the piss to me. But whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2019 20:34:29 GMT
What makes you think there's a problem with both top gates ? Only the inside gate is out of it's cup ! It sure looks like both are on the piss to me. But whatever. Looking at the pictures closely I think there is only one gate out of its pot but the wood work on both gates shows signs of recent impact damage from a vessel coming up the lock. I will therefore withdraw my suggestion that the pot has split and agree that a boat has become wedged going up resulting in damage to woodwork and one gate being lifted.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 5, 2019 20:49:37 GMT
It sure looks like both are on the piss to me. But whatever. Looking at the pictures closely I think there is only one gate out of its pot but the wood work on both gates shows signs of recent impact damage from a vessel coming up the lock. I will therefore withdraw my suggestion that the pot has split and agree that a boat has become wedged going up resulting in damage to woodwork and one gate being lifted. It looks to me like the sort of damage that a swim-ended lighter could do if it wasn't being held back off the gates with a stop rope whilst the lock was filling.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 5, 2019 20:59:55 GMT
What makes you think there's a problem with both top gates ? Only the inside gate is out of it's cup ! It sure looks like both are on the piss to me. But whatever. Look more carefully at the upper level waterline/water surface mark on both gates. It's not horizontal - ie. not on a parallel plane with the surface of the water - only on the inside (towpath side) gate, . . and there's more of the mitre post showing above water on that gate compared with the outside one. Are you absolutely sure you don't work for C&RT ? ?
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