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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 15:50:34 GMT
I'll do one when I get it on the water
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Post by bodger on Oct 10, 2019 15:50:57 GMT
lovely hull shape. where do you hide all these boats? .................. or maybe I shouldn't ask.
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Post by thebfg on Oct 10, 2019 16:45:06 GMT
I can't think of who your accent reminds me of.
Doing my head in
Cracking boat
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 16:52:09 GMT
It's some celebrity I noticed it as well. I think it's Jeremy vine which is a bit worrying!
I very rarely if ever listen to a recording of my own voice !!
ETA next time I'll do my Irish. Don't ya know.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 17:32:27 GMT
One of the the things I really like about the boat is the honest construction. Yes the bow curves are made up of multiple plates. No there has been no attempt to grind off and fair the hull for that mirror finish. Why bother. Does the job. I think it looks beautiful. The strakes where the chines join are actually solid round bar welded both sides so there are 4 continuous welds for each structural joint plus a protective edge formed by the round bar itself. It's a very competent bit of work to be honest. Unconventional so not everyone's cup of tea but I have never seen a better cup of tea in my life. Biggest worry is that it's not particularly thick plating and it's a 35 year old boat. 5mm and 6mm plates mostly. Metric not imperial. It's been well looked after so provided I keep up the good work it should be good to go. Bilges are bone dry throughout with no sign of internal corrosion which is helpful. Initially I was surprised to find 5 water tanks and just two diesel tanks but I believe the boat was built as a bunker to survive the aftermath of a nuclear Armageddon the water is definitely going to be more important than the diesel Interestingly the bloke at the boatyard said "he struggled a bit with the bows". He must have been concentrating on the aesthetic side of it visible welds etc rather than the actual boat.
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Post by lollygagger on Oct 10, 2019 17:53:37 GMT
You might have already mentioned it, but are you pleased with your new boat?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 18:12:21 GMT
Well I do quite like it.
Like I said it would take until the next decade to describe all the details.
Another one I discovered today was that the stainless flue terminal is specifically made to slot between the fire and the steel plate behind it for when the fire is not being used. I had put the flue terminal on the floor for the transport. Then I thought to myself "I wonder if it fits in that gap by the fire". Yes it does with about 2mm to spare. Made to measure and can not move its like putting a lightbulb in. Secure.
The attention to detail is on a different level to anything I have ever seen. It's serious shit.
I can do ideas in my head but the fact someone has had the ideas and executed it so competently is something I find very impressive.
It's not just "I've got a new boat" enthusiasm this is something else. It's amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 18:38:48 GMT
The driveline between gearboxes and propellers is all custom made stuff. I need to investigate further but I think he has put shear pins in there. Very sensible as it protects your tail shafts in the event of a serious prop foul.I'd rather lose drive than bend a shaft. Specially with twin engines as you do have backup.
It's so technical in there. Exhausts are custom made stainless steel including box silencers with their own air vents on both engines. Twin engine room forced ventilation blowers both working like they were fitted last weekend.
Engines are a mirror image. Even the Morse control connections have hand made leverage arrangements to make it all work more smoothly. It certainly does work the Morse control is spot on.
The mystery boxes in my video are cooling for the prm delta gearboxes. Separate from the engine cooling.
Wiring loom. Where the wiring passes through a steel bulkhead all the edges of the steel (even the bit above) have had cut open plastic pipe glued on to prevent chafing.
Tanks all have inspection covers screwed down with stainless fasteners and lots of grease to make it easy to inspect.
Don't get me started on the stern gear !
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 18:45:09 GMT
Sorry to go on about it
The port engine has a red sticker on the rocker cover. The starboard engine has a green sticker.
Imagine you are at sea it's a bit rough you get an issue on the port engine indicated by the dashboard maybe overheating or reduced revs due to prop fouling. You are also a bit tired.
Exit the wheelhouse open engine room cover turn round and climb down ladder into engine room. how do you know which engine is which? They are identical and you have turned round twice already. Confusion.
Oh yes they are colour coded. Red and green.
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Post by bodger on Oct 10, 2019 18:59:28 GMT
a sea boat of that size and of semi-displacement design would normally be built from 5mm and 6mm plate. I built several sea boats about 30ft long in the 70's and they were all 5mm plate - I also used round bar for the chines - a lot of welding but the rigidity of the bars kept the lines fair. Sea boats are built to take the forces of the waves, but not the constant collisions with concrete walls and other boats, and they don't need to be any thicker than 5 or 6mm, but they do benefit from plate curvature (a bit like the shell of an egg).
to be honest, I don't think I've ever seen a boat of that size and type with such beautiful fair lines.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2019 19:08:02 GMT
a sea boat of that size and of semi-displacement design would normally be built from 5mm and 6mm plate. I built several sea boats about 30ft long in the 70's and they were all 5mm plate - I also used round bar for the chines - a lot of welding but the rigidity of the bars kept the lines fair. Sea boats are built to take the forces of the waves, but not the constant collisions with concrete walls and other boats, and they don't need to be any thicker than 5 or 6mm, but they do benefit from plate curvature (a bit like the shell of an egg). to be honest, I don't think I've ever seen a boat of that size and type with such beautiful fair lines. I have to admit my previous experience with steel boats is canal boats where plate thickness takes precedence over hull shape and there is a certain amount of aesthetic happening as well where they iron out imperfections using filler. Quite a lot of filler on many canal boats. Specially expensive ones. This boat reminds me of much larger boats. It's a bit similar to the loyal class fleet tenders from the RNAS. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Naval_Auxiliary_ServiceI am familiar with the bow shape of these boats as have often been beneath the bows of the Loyal Chancellor at Limehouse in my canoe. It's a beautiful boat the Loyal Chancellor. Nice item if a bit large.
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Post by thebfg on Oct 10, 2019 21:40:55 GMT
You might have already mentioned it, but are you pleased with your new boat? He is definitely excited and happy. How many new boats has he added to the fleet and this is the first time we've heard so much. I'm not complaining, it's nice to see
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Post by NigelMoore on Oct 10, 2019 21:41:39 GMT
Until you posted the last picture, didn't realise you have been up my way - that is just down the road from us when not in Brentford. Could have invited you around, but I suppose you will be wrapped up in the launching tomorrow. Quite a sophisticated little set-up they have; dropped 3WM in there a few years ago at high tide.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 6:37:55 GMT
Until you posted the last picture, didn't realise you have been up my way - that is just down the road from us when not in Brentford. Could have invited you around, but I suppose you will be wrapped up in the launching tomorrow. Quite a sophisticated little set-up they have; dropped 3WM in there a few years ago at high tide. I didn't realise you were near there Nigel. Boat went on road transport yesterday. Great little boatyard they have there very effectively laid out. I might be back up that way as I did not bring the very large (2ft6) round orange bow fenders that were with the boat. Thought I would not need them. Will find out when I start bringing it through Thames locks. So I might be going back to collect them.
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Post by patty on Oct 11, 2019 7:18:54 GMT
Sorry to go on about it The port engine has a red sticker on the rocker cover. The starboard engine has a green sticker. Imagine you are at sea it's a bit rough you get an issue on the port engine indicated by the dashboard maybe overheating or reduced revs due to prop fouling. You are also a bit tired. Exit the wheelhouse open engine room cover turn round and climb down ladder into engine room. how do you know which engine is which? They are identical and you have turned round twice already. Confusion. Oh yes they are colour coded. Red and green. Don't apologise... It' lovely to read about your new boat.
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