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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 24, 2019 19:02:21 GMT
Of course, you will know better. Not as far as cars are concerned in the UK. We have rented from Enterprise and Hertz, but I have never even thought of looking to see if it has a licence in the windscreen. I should try to remember to look next time! Cars in Finland don't display licences in the windscreen, but Road/Vehicle Tax is mandatory, as is, of course, insurance and a yearly MoT (which is sometimes 2 years apart, which is a bit bizarre). Everything is electronic out here - when the Police stop you for a fine and it is based on a percentage of your income, they pull up your salary details from the Tax Office. By the way, paper tachograph discs for the past two months are required to be carried by bus/truck drivers. It is a fineable offence not to have them with you when stopped by the Police and asked to produce them.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 24, 2019 19:04:51 GMT
Just change the oils and get on with it I believe he still hasn't the gall to change the fuel filter ….. No, have that experience under my belt now. Did both the pre-filter and main fuel filter in June. Dead easy. I don't know why mechanics have previously made such as fuss with rubber hoses and removing fuel lines... spin old one off, slam new one on, wait for it to bleed, close bleed screw. Bowl handy to catch any drips.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 24, 2019 19:09:45 GMT
What fascinates me in those T&C’s is 7.2 “ You must . . . follow our lawful directions, spoken or written (including signs). This includes signs that prohibit mooring or limit the period you may moor the Boat at specific locations.” As they failed, in pushing the 1990 Bill, to have the power to give such directions entered into the Act, all such ‘directions’ remain unlawful, the existing byelaws having made no such provision - nor any since then, introduced. So term 7.2 is, to use a favourite word of theirs, otiose. So... is it a legal requirement to display a valid licence? I thought it was an older law or Act of Parliament that asked of this. Yes, I have kept in mind to ignore CRT signs stating things like '2 days only' as the Law says 14 days, although they haven't affected us and do seem to be trying to be helpful in letting boaters share the 'honey pot' moorings.
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Post by Trina on Oct 24, 2019 19:10:27 GMT
If you'd READ what I wrote (rather than just altering it) I said it was meaningless and didn't mention law at all. As long as you've paid your licence money, it's no one's business but yours and C&RT's. As long as the number is displayed C&RT , and indeed you, can check on line if any boat is licensed or not. For someone so introverted they won't take a pee in a public loo, you seem to like involving yourself in others business.Rog I display my number - but only my last year's paper licence. I might wear wellies if I had to frequent a communal urinal in the presence of some members. met x Brings a whole new meaning to,'Fill your boots'...😏
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 24, 2019 20:37:02 GMT
I've always displayed my licence 'disks' in the window, like a good little boy. I'm going to take them down tomorrow. Partly to see if anything happens and partly through devilment, I quite like being a bit of a devil.
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Post by thebfg on Oct 24, 2019 22:33:32 GMT
Of course, you will know better. Not as far as cars are concerned in the UK. We have rented from Enterprise and Hertz, but I have never even thought of looking to see if it has a licence in the windscreen. I should try to remember to look next time! Cars in Finland don't display licences in the windscreen, but Road/Vehicle Tax is mandatory, as is, of course, insurance and a yearly MoT (which is sometimes 2 years apart, which is a bit bizarre). Everything is electronic out here - when the Police stop you for a fine and it is based on a percentage of your income, they pull up your salary details from the Tax Office. By the way, paper tachograph discs for the past two months are required to be carried by bus/truck drivers. It is a fineable offence not to have them with you when stopped by the Police and asked to produce them. It is no longer an offence to fail to display a road tax fund licence. The law was changed so cannot be compared to a boat licence where CRT have written their own laws.
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Post by thebfg on Oct 24, 2019 22:40:32 GMT
Those with a home mooring still have to move every 2 weeks if not on their mooring. They'd need to moor in a different km section for 2 weeks, otherwise they haven't moved. They could probably return to the previous km section without a problem, despite CRT making an announcement that those with a home mooring who are out on the cut must move like those without a home mooring. This is nonsense, and CRT don't appear to be acting in line with the nonsense. They have to be able to return. Where the mooring is A you go A B C B A otherwise how do you return back to A, the mooring. So how do CRT think they must go A B C D etc. Without returning. They could do the same trip every month and can't be punished for it. I might ask for our spotting record just to see of we were spotted. I Don't think we ever got spotted.
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Post by NigelMoore on Oct 24, 2019 23:10:38 GMT
So... is it a legal requirement to display a valid licence? I thought it was an older law or Act of Parliament that asked of this. It IS a legal requirement to display a valid licence. This arises from the 1976 byelaws - 4. (1) The owner of a pleasure boat shall not knowingly cause or permit to be used on a canal (not being a river waterway) any pleasure boat in respect of which a pleasure boat licence has been issued unless the licence for the time being in force is displayed on the pleasure boat in such a manner and position as to be clearly visible from outside the pleasure boat at all times.
5. Any person who contravenes the foregoing or any of the Board’s General Canal Bye-laws . . . shall be liable on summary conviction to a penalty not exceeding one hundred pounds for each offence and in any byelaw prescribing penalties the words “one hundred” shall be substituted for “twenty-five”.
I wouldn’t get fussed over it myself. Aside from the clear public pronouncements from CaRT that they will not worry about this rather obsolete demand so long as the licence plate is clearly visible, they are never going to prosecute anybody for any breach of any byelaw anyway, on the basis of poor fiscal return on the energy expenditure, and insufficiently punitive for their tastes. Note that the above comments are not to be construed by the unwary as a recommendation from me that the law can be disregarded. I will leave that to CaRT.
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Post by Jim on Oct 25, 2019 5:43:22 GMT
It's not but nobody but a busybody gives a flying fuck. Just use the licence checker if it turns you on. Maybe in the privacy of the toilet. It's every boater's business to see who is riding the canals for free and thus taking the piss. If you are an honest boater and have paid for a licence, there's no reason for not displaying it. One does wonder why you get so het up about this, Jim. Me, Het up, nah, there is an over officious busybody who gets Het up though, over 4% ish of the boating fraternity . Who would want to spend their holidays interfering in others business.
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Post by JohnV on Oct 25, 2019 6:48:20 GMT
So term 7.2 is, to use a favourite word of theirs, otiose.Thank you yet again for the edumacation With regard to the requirement to display a number ....... last year I had a checker getting quite confused with Sabina's displayed reg. number not making any sense to him (Historic register number )
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 25, 2019 7:11:10 GMT
It's every boater's business to see who is riding the canals for free and thus taking the piss. If you are an honest boater and have paid for a licence, there's no reason for not displaying it. One does wonder why you get so het up about this, Jim. Me, Het up, nah. There is an honest licence-paying and licence-displaying Fox who has noticed that 70% of boats on the K&A are not displaying licences, and this is quite illegal. Glad you agree, Jim!
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Post by Jim on Oct 25, 2019 8:51:28 GMT
Me, Het up, nah. There is an honest licence-paying and licence-displaying snooper short sighted who has noticed that 70% of boats on the K&A are not displaying licences, and this is quite illegal. Glad you agree I'm an utter twat, Jim! I like my photo
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