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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 18:18:05 GMT
The reality is that the NHS does not receive enough funding You're having a laugh, aint'cha? The NHS and the care system in general is the most enormous money-pit imaginable. That we all pay for. My ex was a Staff Nurse who tried a spell in management- "Carpetland" it's called apparently. There were four top-of-the-range computers in her office, only one was ever even booted up. One day all four were replaced, at around a year old, with four brand new top-of-the-range computers. Being a bit new to it she asked why they had been given four new computers when they only ever used one, and her Line Manager said "If we don't use up our budget, they will cut it next year". And that is the other big problem - too many fucking managers. I suggest replacing every half-dozen or so with somebody who has survived self-employed as a sole trader for a decade or two.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 18:20:54 GMT
You're having a laugh, aint'cha? The NHS and the care system in general is the most enormous money-pit imaginable. That we all pay for. My ex was a Staff Nurse who tried a spell in management- "Carpetland" it's called apparently. There were four top-of-the-range computers in her office, only one was ever even booted up. One day all four were replaced, at around a year old, with four brand new top-of-the-range computers. Being a bit new to it she asked why they had been given four new computers when they only ever used one, and her Line Manager said "If we don't use up our budget, they will cut it next year". And that is the other big problem - too many fucking managers. I suggest replacing every half-dozen or so with somebody who has survived self-employed as a sole trader for a decade or two. Often tritley trotted out in a discussion about the NHS. What is the ratio of managers to front line staff, I no longer have access to the info. but I presume you have some accurate data.?
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Post by JohnV on Nov 16, 2019 18:21:49 GMT
Empire building is the curse of all businesses and organisations above a certain size
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 18:35:34 GMT
I tend to believe the nhs is let down by middle management. They are obstructive to both those below and above them. I've witnessed this, and was shocked at how much their behaviour had reflected on the way the hospital ran.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 19:04:18 GMT
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Post by dyertribe on Nov 16, 2019 19:18:16 GMT
You're having a laugh, aint'cha? The NHS and the care system in general is the most enormous money-pit imaginable. That we all pay for. My ex was a Staff Nurse who tried a spell in management- "Carpetland" it's called apparently. There were four top-of-the-range computers in her office, only one was ever even booted up. One day all four were replaced, at around a year old, with four brand new top-of-the-range computers. Being a bit new to it she asked why they had been given four new computers when they only ever used one, and her Line Manager said "If we don't use up our budget, they will cut it next year". I think I have said before this is unfortunately likely to be correct. The perverse way NHS finance used to work, and presumably still does meant that at the end of the financial year there was a scramble to spend up. I worked in NHS Pathology from 1979-1989. I can confirm that we scrabbled around to spend our budget on non-essentials tO ensure we kept our budget despite the fact that caring over the underspend would allow us to replace an essential piece of equipment in the following year.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 19:26:14 GMT
I think I have said before this is unfortunately likely to be correct. The perverse way NHS finance used to work, and presumably still does meant that at the end of the financial year there was a scramble to spend up. I worked in NHS Pathology from 1979-1989. I can confirm that we scrabbled around to spend our budget on non-essentials tO ensure we kept our budget despite the fact that caring over the underspend would allow us to replace an essential piece of equipment in the following year. It used to frustrate the hell out of me. In your household budget if you have a surplus in your current account in March the bank dont snatch it back, and start you again in April with what you had in April the year previous. You stick it in a rainy day fund.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 19:50:08 GMT
I worked in NHS Pathology from 1979-1989. I can confirm that we scrabbled around to spend our budget on non-essentials tO ensure we kept our budget despite the fact that caring over the underspend would allow us to replace an essential piece of equipment in the following year. It used to frustrate the hell out of me. In your household budget if you have a surplus in your current account in March the bank dont snatch it back, and start you again in April with what you had in April the year previous. You stick it in a rainy day fund. But despite the fact you were a senior manager it was above your pay-grade to do anything about it. Can you see what the problem is yet?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 20:10:07 GMT
It used to frustrate the hell out of me. In your household budget if you have a surplus in your current account in March the bank dont snatch it back, and start you again in April with what you had in April the year previous. You stick it in a rainy day fund. But despite the fact you were a senior manager it was above your pay-grade to do anything about it. Can you see what the problem is yet? Well even senior managers can't change how the public sector budget allocation works. Its about govt. policy not management decisions or the numbers of managers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 20:25:35 GMT
But despite the fact you were a senior manager it was above your pay-grade to do anything about it. Can you see what the problem is yet? Well even senior managers can't change how the public sector budget allocation works. Its about govt. policy not management decisions or the numbers of managers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 20:29:15 GMT
Great. Though quite what what the point is, gawd knows.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 20:32:26 GMT
Idiot
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 20:50:50 GMT
Well even senior managers can't change how the public sector budget allocation works. Its about govt. policy not management decisions or the numbers of managers. I got to see that film when it came out (I was only 16 and still at school) Apart from the final scene it was exactly how my school was. It was supposed to be satire but the majority of it was documentary.
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Post by rockdodger on Nov 17, 2019 1:46:37 GMT
what caused mjg to leave this time?
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Post by Andyberg on Nov 17, 2019 1:50:32 GMT
Bit too left wing for me alas!
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