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Post by bodger on Dec 15, 2019 18:13:46 GMT
I think it's best just to not give a shit. Once you start giving a shit it causes problems. So what if the humans are going to nacker themselves? Does it amount to a hill of beans ? I reckon the eventual outcome will be massive population reduction by war, famine, pestilence and natural phenomena. What's not to like? I can afford to not give a shit - I won't be around in 30 years (hopefully). But you and I have kids, and I have grand-kids, and they will suffer in some way or another, possibly catastrophically, over the next 60 years. When Attenborough made his first Planet Earth series nearly 20 years ago he made it clear that the world could not sustainably support more than 1 billion examples of homo sapiens - your prediction of dreadful consequences seems to be the only way forward. Whether the Earth will be fit to live in after those events is another question that can only remain unanswered until after the event.
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Post by Jim on Dec 15, 2019 18:20:22 GMT
I think it's best just to not give a shit. Once you start giving a shit it causes problems. So what if the humans are going to nacker themselves? Does it amount to a hill of beans ? I reckon the eventual outcome will be massive population reduction by war, famine, pestilence and natural phenomena. What's not to like? I can afford to not give a shit - I won't be around in 30 years (hopefully). But you and I have kids, and I have grand-kids, and they will suffer in some way or another, possibly catastrophically, over the next 60 years. When Attenborough made his first Planet Earth series nearly 20 years ago he made it clear that the world could not sustainably support more than 1 billion examples of homo sapiens - your prediction of dreadful consequences seems to be the only way forward. Whether the Earth will be fit to live in after those events is another question that can only remain unanswered until after the event. We can always resort to Soylent Green.
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 15, 2019 18:46:58 GMT
It most certainly does. If it weren't for me the kiddies would have their mums and dads taking them to school in their cars - or tractors. More or less same kids every day - some of them are on my bus for an hour, shortest journey about 5 kilometres. oh, that's OK then. the planet is saved. ................ except the biggest carbon cost of a car is manufacturing it in the first place, and your actions have not resulted in a single car not being purchased (correct me if you know otherwise). It's possible families living out this way have decided they can do without a second car as that nice bus driver runs to time every morning.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 18:51:28 GMT
The man who eats catfood from a tuna tin? Or was it the other way around.
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Post by bodger on Dec 15, 2019 19:26:12 GMT
oh, that's OK then. the planet is saved. ................ except the biggest carbon cost of a car is manufacturing it in the first place, and your actions have not resulted in a single car not being purchased (correct me if you know otherwise). It's possible families living out this way have decided they can do without a second car as that nice bus driver runs to time every morning. wow!! not having a second car will definitely save the planet. why don't you cut out the pedantry and consider the issue on a global basis - really - where do we go from here if there is to be any decent future for us and our kids? unless we somehow adapt to an entirely different lifestyle, it will soon be downhill all the way.
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Post by Gone on Dec 15, 2019 20:47:18 GMT
It's possible families living out this way have decided they can do without a second car as that nice bus driver runs to time every morning. wow!! not having a second car will definitely save the planet. why don't you cut out the pedantry and consider the issue on a global basis - really - where do we go from here if there is to be any decent future for us and our kids? unless we somehow adapt to an entirely different lifestyle, it will soon be downhill all the way. The best way to save the planet is to fly first class from LAX to LHR and join the protest, flying back the next day, that told them!!!
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Post by thebfg on Dec 15, 2019 22:01:20 GMT
Do dogs actually ever eat other dogs? It's a well used expression but I wonder if it is reality based or if dogs might actually specifically avoid eating other dogs. Someone must have studied this. The original phrase was actually dog does not eat dog. It changed around the 1930's
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Post by JohnV on Dec 16, 2019 7:40:38 GMT
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Post by patty on Dec 16, 2019 8:02:38 GMT
not sure the meaning here..ok so Ive been skimming threads again...but its a lovely GIF...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 8:12:15 GMT
My favourite song about the coming Armageddon is Total Eclipse by Klaus Nomi. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but for a relaxed cover version this is worth a watch in the original he does all the voice but not many males can do that so this cover has a woman. Song was about the potential for nuclear war in early 80s but the message works well for the existing concerns. History repeating itself ? And of course the original live version by Nomi himself. Wish I had been there... My favourite piece of music only discovered recently.
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 16, 2019 9:00:01 GMT
It's possible families living out this way have decided they can do without a second car as that nice bus driver runs to time every morning. consider the issue on a global basis - really - where do we go from here if there is to be any decent future for us and our kids? unless we somehow adapt to an entirely different lifestyle, it will soon be downhill all the way. You are right. But we are dealing with greedy humans. If you want to see how greedy they are, have a look at Ebay and the people who lurk at the back and then bid on auctions at the very last two seconds in order to beat the competition. They are ruthless and will stop at nothing so that they can have a better life than you. I think reducing the population would help in the first place, and then the only way to control the consumption of resources is by dictatorship. But this could be looked at as not a natural process (or... is it?!) - and perhaps then we should just let nature take its course and have humans snuff themselves out. And then it will become the Age of the Cockroaches, or something. The meek shall inherit the Earth, as they say!
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 16, 2019 9:01:52 GMT
The man who eats catfood from a tuna tin? Or was it the other way around. Orange jelly with chopped up bits of Mars Bars in it - looks just like cat food. Rip of lid of cat food tin and dig in with spoon. (leave cat food label on, but tin is first emptied and washed before pouring in jelly from the base).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 9:14:08 GMT
The meek shall inherit the Earth, as they say! What you blatantly fail to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem !!
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Post by JohnV on Dec 16, 2019 9:21:48 GMT
Whoops sorry, I thought you said the Mekon shall inherit the Earth
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 16, 2019 9:41:38 GMT
The meek shall inherit the Earth, as they say! What you blatantly fail to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem !! I see Tara Ecclestone isn't so meek... "Burglars steal £50m of jewels from F1 heiress Tamara Ecclestone's £70m London home in 50-minute raid just hours after she jetted off to Lapland for a family Christmas holiday" "The 35-year-old heiress daughter of former F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone is said to be in 'complete devastation and shock' after the break-in at her palatial home in Kensington, west London, on Friday night. The burglars entered the grand house via the back garden and spent 50 minutes stealing every piece of Tamara's jewellery including precious earrings with 'personal meaning' and a £80,000 Cartier bangle wedding gift from her husband. The gang of three thieves were able to smash open several bedroom safes and fled via an open window despite a guard sitting in a CCTV room and the 57-room mansion being on an exclusive street boasting 24-hour security patrols and multiple checkpoints. Despite the £50million gem theft Tamara put on a brave face as she spent time with her daughter and husband in Lapland this weekend. Tamara and Sophia smiled as they went through a snowy forest on a sleigh pulled by reindeer, frolicked in the snow with Jay, cooked sausages on an open fire and baked gingerbread together as a family." Formula 1, eh? Nothing quite like needlessly burning petrol to make money! Let's hope she doesn't get all eco-friendly and start lecturing us on how to save the planet. Good luck to the burglars, say I. Perhaps they will distribute some to the homeless this Christmas. Unlike Tara. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7795619/Tamara-Ecclestone-50million-worth-jewellery-stolen-London-home.html
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