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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 14, 2016 8:22:05 GMT
Even if they offered amnesty I wouldn't go back to cwdf. Not after the treatment received,well okay maybe to take the piss out of the plumber. While ever Dan won't relinquish control the only way for it is down. Let's face it they signed cwdfs death warrant by trying to stifle open discussion. The latest development of closing the Leigh ravencroft thread, I feel is very worrying. Dan has allowed cwdf to become the instrument of crt/shoosmiths dirty tricks dept. I couldn't agree more, Kris, . . I would have at least some measure of respect left for Despicable Dan if he had the balls to admit that C&RT / Shoosmiths have pressurized them into suppressing the embarrassing stuff. But, never mind, the only losers in all this are DD and his gang of prats, Moderators or Nauseators, and of course all that C&RT have succeeded in doing is to give Thunderboat a bit of a boost at CWDF's expense.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 8:30:33 GMT
As the issue over there is control freakery and over moderation, I'm not sure an amnesty would be of any use. Dan's comments on that thread show he has no interest in acting on the members views despite saying he appreciates the feedback. I think all this is doing is feeding his already inflated ego.
If anyone needs to post on there just use a sock puppet. Whether we'd feel the need to do that is another matter. Maybe if we need to give information which might be valuable to anyone over there possibly.
I still recon Dan should man up and allow a poll to run to see if the members want a change of forum 'owner'. That would be in the spirit of democracy which he claims to believe in.
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Post by JohnV on Oct 14, 2016 8:41:40 GMT
I still recon Dan should man up and allow a poll to run to see if the members want a change of forum 'owner'. That would be in the spirit of democracy which he claims to believe in. As he has already banned a large proportion of those who would have opposed him and if he can achieve a few more desaparecidos, ............. he might think that an excellent idea He does not seem to realise what he created with his quest for a pure CV
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Post by kris on Oct 14, 2016 8:46:39 GMT
I couldn't agree more, Kris, but I would have at least some measure of respect left for Despicable Dan if he had the balls to admit that C&RT / Shoosmiths have pressurized them into suppressing the embarrassing stuff. Exactly Tony it's the dishonesty that is the major rub, the statement that was made that "crt haven't applied any pressure" or whatever they said. Was just a smoke screen, I'm sure it was done informally and dans just folded like the spineless wimp he is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 9:02:59 GMT
I still recon Dan should man up and allow a poll to run to see if the members want a change of forum 'owner'. That would be in the spirit of democracy which he claims to believe in. As he has already banned a large proportion of those who would have opposed him and if he can achieve a few more desaparecidos, ............. he might think that an excellent idea He does not seem to realise what he created with his quest for a pure CV View AttachmentI'm not sure if that's the case though. Anyone who still has an interest in being able to post over there can use their sock puppet(s) to vote. Personally I'd only rejoin officially if it returned to the vibrant state it was in before Dan started to tinker. In his defence though I'm pretty sure the change was influenced by a small number of members who are jealous of certain boaters and who have zero sense of humour. They are trigger happy on the 'report' button because they take great delight in seeing others punished for what they don't have in their sad lives. ...and we can guess who they are...
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Post by Andyberg on Oct 14, 2016 9:18:16 GMT
It amazes me how certain members over there actively call this place for the foul language and discussion topics, obviously trying to stifle the membership here, I mean jeez, do these people live in caves? Is there really anything on here that people don't encounter in normal day to day lives?
Some of the comments on Matty's thread about 'sneaky visits here to sample the shocking wares' had me thinking thunderboat was a forum for black magic kitten fuckers or something?
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Post by Saltysplash on Oct 14, 2016 9:28:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 9:35:19 GMT
In some ways I do agree with some of those over there that running the two forums side by side is the best way now.
To a degree it is about how much risk those who run forums wish to take. That's why it's important we respect the wishes of D9 here and self moderate accordingly.
A vote of confidence/non confidence over there would help CWF move on either way. So far everyone seems happy here.
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Post by Delta9 on Oct 14, 2016 9:46:13 GMT
It amazes me how certain members over there actively call this place for the foul language and discussion topics, obviously trying to stifle the membership here, I mean jeez, do these people live in caves? Is there really anything on here that people don't encounter in normal day to day lives? Some of the comments on Matty's thread about 'sneaky visits here to sample the shocking wares' had me thinking thunderboat was a forum for black magic kitten fuckers or something? You need 125posts before you are invited to join the hidden black magic and kitten fucking board.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Oct 14, 2016 9:50:59 GMT
In some ways I do agree with some of those over there that running the two forums side by side is the best way now. To a degree it is about how much risk those who run forums wish to take. That's why it's important we respect the wishes of D9 here and self moderate accordingly. A vote of confidence/non confidence over there would help CWF move on either way. So far everyone seems happy here. I'm not sure what sort of risk you mean by that. The only thing that CWDF was risking by leaving such as the Liverpool Lightship thread and 'Boater sues C&RT' to run was that DD and the Mod's wouldn't get a Christmas card from Parry !
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Post by geo on Oct 14, 2016 9:53:01 GMT
I'm sure Matty won't be sanctioned as the "wee flounce" thread, expressing the same sentiments, continues to run. It's good to see nearly everyone except a very few professional sanitisers singing from the same hymn sheet (not Welsh hymns though). if the regime doesn't now start to question its path then it truly is megalomaniacal.Absolutely Nick. With the continuing protest about the way the moderation has been going how could anyone not start to think that there is something basically going awry? Or, as you say, is it just the 'Kim Jong' style of leadership where no-one is allowed to criticise? I noticed that my CWDF profile had been visited by a mod recently (with no further action evident) and yet I have never posted anything that I could possibly imagine would cause mod action.............although we have evidence here of how the two things aren't necessarily related. Roger Maybe it is all water off a ducks back. It does not matter to them and in fact I am wondering if it is all ego and anything that threatens the ego must be wrong no matter what. Even with 278 posts and counting plus those that have been deleted.
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Post by geo on Oct 14, 2016 9:56:46 GMT
It amazes me how certain members over there actively call this place for the foul language and discussion topics, obviously trying to stifle the membership here, I mean jeez, do these people live in caves? Is there really anything on here that people don't encounter in normal day to day lives? Some of the comments on Matty's thread about 'sneaky visits here to sample the shocking wares' had me thinking thunderboat was a forum for black magic kitten fuckers or something? You need 125posts before you are invited to join the hidden black magic and kitten fucking board. You mean there is more to find
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 10:03:05 GMT
In some ways I do agree with some of those over there that running the two forums side by side is the best way now. To a degree it is about how much risk those who run forums wish to take. That's why it's important we respect the wishes of D9 here and self moderate accordingly. A vote of confidence/non confidence over there would help CWF move on either way. So far everyone seems happy here. I'm not sure what sort of risk you mean by that. The only thing that CWDF was risking by leaving such as the Liverpool Lightship thread and 'Boater sues C&RT' to run was that DD and the Mod's wouldn't get a Christmas card from Parry ! Hmm...easy for you to say, but one needs to be confident about their knowledge of law before putting their heads on the line.
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Post by geo on Oct 14, 2016 10:57:41 GMT
I'm not sure what sort of risk you mean by that. The only thing that CWDF was risking by leaving such as the Liverpool Lightship thread and 'Boater sues C&RT' to run was that DD and the Mod's wouldn't get a Christmas card from Parry ! Hmm...easy for you to say, but one needs to be confident about their knowledge of law before putting their heads on the line. They have told me that they have sort legal advice, even suggesting in the PM that it was enclosed. When I mentioned that it was not and I would like to read it as that is one of the things I do, the story changes. They could get advice for about £400-£500, maybe less. I am sure one of the public access barristers would be happy to spend a couple of hours telling them what they have already been told. If they are going to run such a forum as CWFD them they really need to know, well that is my opinion.
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Post by NigelMoore on Oct 14, 2016 11:06:47 GMT
. . . the statement that was made that "crt haven't applied any pressure" or whatever they said. Was just a smoke screen, I'm sure it was done informally and dans just folded like the spineless wimp he is. I fluctuate over any recognition that this might be the case. While the stupidity of an action is no reliable indication that it could not have been instigated by either CaRT or Shoosmiths, it does need pointing out just how stupid it would have been, had either or both pressured for the shut-down. As I commented in one of the relevant threads – having a direct conduit into the thinking and argument and plans of an opponent is a priceless asset; closing down that conduit shuts them off – not only from the fly-on-the-wall insights, but – from the counter-arguments volunteered by CaRT supporters, and by those with no part in the game other than an interest in offering challenge for its own sake. I shall sorely miss the contributions of mayalld in particular, because he has been able to come up with far better arguments against my own positions than Mr Stoner QC has managed – and having the opportunity to run tactics and argument past such enthusiastic scrutineers is of itself invaluable – as Mike Todd accurately observed in the ‘sheep’ thread.
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