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Post by patty on Nov 6, 2016 11:24:16 GMT
I cannot see them removing the 'report' button..to much control lost.
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Post by Albion on Nov 6, 2016 11:49:17 GMT
Merely a pause, normal service will resume shortly. I tend to agree I think she is a 'molly coddler' by nature, and will soon again be sending folks off to the norty step and slapping folks wrists Not necessarily Bettie, I have been in contact with WF by PM on CWDF very recently pressing for a more transparent and sensible modding policy and have received very sensible replies and a surprising degree of concurrence with my views despite the reputation that she seems to have, as expressed by some on here. I will not, obviously, divulge the contents of my PMs but I think we should watch this space to be honest. It is true though, in all fairness, that one mod's opinions won't be able to necessarily change the whole modding policy and so any mod (existing or new) will have to follow any new mod team rules whatever they collectively decide (and whenever they FINALLY get round to deciding and letting us know!!!!). Roger
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 6, 2016 12:08:41 GMT
In my mind they are voting for the wrong thing. They should be voting for a change of management. The CA thing is just a smoke screen to cover up the way some long term members were treated over there by Dan and his team of mods. True enough, and what also comes to light (in my eyes anyway), is the people who are-were banned, didn't actually cause as many issues as some of the twats that remain and continue to cause squabbles.Β That very point has been made (by Jr I think). A simple point, well made.
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 6, 2016 12:10:12 GMT
What is interesting is the desperate need by some to hit the "report button" for the most trivial things, and the desperation of the mods to act on them with such urgency that their lives are disrupted. Anyway at least WF seems to be trying to be courteous. Perhaps my rants on the subject had some impact. I shouted at the screen when I read "Reported" in one post. For Christ's sake, get a life!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 12:18:43 GMT
What is interesting is the desperate need by some to hit the "report button" for the most trivial things, and the desperation of the mods to act on them with such urgency that their lives are disrupted. Anyway at least WF seems to be trying to be courteous. Perhaps my rants on the subject had some impact. I shouted at the screen when I read "Reported" in one post. For Christ's sake, get a life! I know, I heard you. Rog
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Post by smileypete on Nov 6, 2016 12:33:54 GMT
Perhaps removal of the report button is the only modification required. The comments by some mod's over there indicate a belief that the site only runs due to their interventions. I suggest the truth is it would run better without any mod's. Of course some of the more combustible members would quickly explode, but it would settle down. Rog How about a dedicated topic where offensive posts need to be reported publicly. This would need to include a copy of the post in question and the reason, ie which forum rule was broken. The issue with reporting privately seems to be that it encourages vexatious liligants.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 6, 2016 12:46:11 GMT
Perhaps removal of the report button is the only modification required. The comments by some mod's over there indicate a belief that the site only runs due to their interventions. I suggest the truth is it would run better without any mod's. Of course some of the more combustible members would quickly explode, but it would settle down. Rog How about a dedicated topic where offensive posts need to be reported publicly. This would need to include a copy of the post in question and the reason, ie which forum rule was broken. The issue with reporting privately seems to be that it encourages vexatious liligants. The thing is that with CWDF's current forum rules that approach the length of an Apple or Microsoft user agreement, almost anything could be made out to be contrary e.g. posting anything inflammatory or disruptive. Sexually orientated ... presumably using any words such as him or her are not allowed? They must all be referred to as "it"?
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Post by smileypete on Nov 6, 2016 13:00:49 GMT
The thing is that with CWDF's current forum rules that approach the length of an Apple or Microsoft user agreement, almost anything could be made out to be contrary e.g. posting anything inflammatory or disruptive. Sexually orientated ... presumably using any words such as him or her are not allowed? They must all be referred to as "it"? Sure, but that's the fault of the FR&G, I was just suggesting how they could do away with the report button. As for the FR&G they need to be streamlined perhaps by looking what other forums have and how they do it sucessfully. Ideally have a few notes and examples of what is and isn't outside the FR&G, for the guidance of members, and more importantly the moderators themselves!. For starters, a topic that has 'run its course', is getting a little 'heated', or slowly drifting further and further off topic, or 'might' mention the forbidden forum does not need to be locked!!!
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Post by Higgs on Nov 6, 2016 13:25:47 GMT
It's always the same with "democracies" let the people have a vote, to trick them into thinking they have some power. Then just continue the same as before. That is the understanding that keeps people away from the polling stations. They have no interest, if no one is paying any attention to what they would say. I treat people who can't be bothered to lift their heads up from their mobile phones in exactly the same way.
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Post by cuthound on Nov 6, 2016 13:45:49 GMT
The thing is that with CWDF's current forum rules that approach the length of an Apple or Microsoft user agreement, almost anything could be made out to be contrary e.g. posting anything inflammatory or disruptive. Sexually orientated ... presumably using any words such as him or her are not allowed? They must all be referred to as "it"? Sure, but that's the fault of the FR&G, I was just suggesting how they could do away with the report button. As for the FR&G they need to be streamlined perhaps by looking what other forums have and how they do it sucessfully. Ideally have a few notes and examples of what is and isn't outside the FR&G, for the guidance of members, and more importantly the moderators themselves!. For starters, a topic that has 'run its course', is getting a little 'heated', or slowly drifting further and further off topic, or 'might' mention the forbidden forum does not need to be locked!!! Who is this FROG that is to blame, I thought it was Daniel and the moderators that were to blame? πΈ Edited to correct autowrong YET again. Why does it keep replacing my erudite text it with bollux gobbledygook?
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 6, 2016 13:48:46 GMT
Sure, but that's the fault of the FR&G, I was just suggesting how they could do away with the report button. As for the FR&G they need to be streamlined perhaps by looking what other forums have and how they do it sucessfully. Ideally have a few notes and examples of what is and isn't outside the FR&G, for the guidance of members, and more importantly the moderators themselves!. For starters, a topic that has 'run its course', is getting a little 'heated', or slowly drifting further and further off topic, or 'might' mention the forbidden forum does not need to be locked!!! Who is this FROG that is to blame, I thought it was Daniel a bit the moderators that were to blame? Β πΈ It's FR&G silly, it stands for Frigging Regulations and Gagging.
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Post by cuthound on Nov 6, 2016 13:52:04 GMT
Who is this FROG that is to blame, I thought it was Daniel a bit the moderators that were to blame? πΈ It's FR&G silly, it stands for Frigging Regulations and Gagging. Didn't realise the "top team" on the other site were into BDSM π
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 14:04:23 GMT
It's FR&G silly, it stands for Frigging Regulations and Gagging. Didn't realise the "top team" on the other site were into BDSM π ππππ
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Post by lollygagger on Nov 6, 2016 14:24:54 GMT
The problem with lots of rules, moderators and report buttons, is the mods get into a frame of mind where their focus becomes "making moderation easier for themselves".
The easiest way is to ban those that attract the most complaints, so less complaints, less " work" for the moderators. Of course that mainly leaves it dull as anyone with the slightest spark about them either gets banned or bored and lonely.
The same is now happening on another forum I use. The mods have a list of people that they would like to ban and are on the lookout for anything those on the hit list post that might be regarded as transgression, while all others (including me) can regularly break all the rules with impunity. Sounds familiar? I've given up with it, a site where I was the most liked poster (they count them up). I don't want to use a forum that's lost it's way like that, same as cwf. It's a shame but life goes on. Was thinking of starting one like this one, but I'm not sure I can be bothered.
Meanwhile half that forum is having a bitch fest in private groups on Facebook, but closed groups bitching isn't my thing, not really any better than forums run by mods who only want an easy life moaning it's hard, they do it for free etc etc. I don't understand the draw of control like this, I like the unexpected to happen and celebrate it, I have no desire to stamp on it. What's wrong with these people? We're they bullied at school?
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Post by bettina on Nov 6, 2016 14:46:05 GMT
I tend to agree I think she is a 'molly coddler' by nature, and will soon again be sending folks off to the norty step and slapping folks wrists Not necessarily Bettie, I have been in contact with WF by PM on CWDF very recently pressing for a more transparent and sensible modding policy and have received very sensible replies and a surprising degree of concurrence with my views despite the reputation that she seems to have, as expressed by some on here. I will not, obviously, divulge the contents of my PMs but I think we should watch this space to be honest. It is true though, in all fairness, that one mod's opinions won't be able to necessarily change the whole modding policy and so any mod (existing or new) will have to follow any new mod team rules whatever they collectively decide (and whenever they FINALLY get round to deciding and letting us know!!!!). Roger You could be right Roger, but I for one won't be holding my breath. I have had a fair few PM's with WF over the past 6 weeks, and more often than not I was addressed as a norty child. To the point of me letting her know how little I appreciated that tone, she apologized and then continued on doing the exact same thing in the following PM's IMO - WF is the biggest offender in that particular regard. So suggesting that she will be 'leading the change' so to speak, I find entertaining to say the least Guess we can only wait and see
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