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Post by kris on Nov 20, 2016 13:21:30 GMT
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Post by larkboy on Nov 20, 2016 15:27:14 GMT
Me too....😀😀 Made the same year as me!
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Post by kris on Dec 14, 2016 14:17:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 14:39:02 GMT
Its a lovely unit. Someone has spent a good deal of time and money on it with the intention of fitting it into a boat. I wonder what boat it was going to go in and as it didn't what went in instead? Or maybe the boat was a wreck/project.
Quite a heavy item but not exceptionally heavy. Might look really nice in a 72x13ft new build double decker wide beam canal boat. Assuming there is sufficient depth of water and bridge clearance I think a double decker canal boat would be feasible as long as it was fairly deep and well ballasted with a big powerful engine on a mid engine room.
There is a double decker "canal boat" (looks like a massive Springer) at Poplar Dock called Le Sans Égal but it won't fit on the cut due to being too high and it has a relatively shallow draft.
A boat about 5ft deep would probably do it but that would present problems with canal depth. Also rather awkward to ballast a boat down that far...
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Post by tadworth on Dec 14, 2016 15:06:48 GMT
A 70 ft wide beam doesn't need 112 HP,it would be a totally inappropriate fit, there would be no tickover speed, you would piss everyone off with your wash.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 15:14:23 GMT
A 70 ft wide beam doesn't need 112 HP,it would be a totally inappropriate fit, there would be no tickover speed, you would piss everyone off with your wash. I realise that  |
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Post by tadworth on Dec 14, 2016 15:17:44 GMT
A 70 ft wide beam doesn't need 112 HP,it would be a totally inappropriate fit, there would be no tickover speed, you would piss everyone off with your wash. I realise that Just checking you havent gone mental.  You know there is a narrow boat with a six pot Gardener in it ? |
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Post by kris on Dec 14, 2016 15:30:14 GMT
A 70 ft wide beam doesn't need 112 HP,it would be a totally inappropriate fit, there would be no tickover speed, you would piss everyone off with your wash. i think that's the issue with it, it was taken out of a commercial boat to replace with a new unit. But the number of none commercial boats that would take an engine this size must be minuscule. Wouldn't be out of place in some of the Dutch barges around, quite a few have 120hp Daf's. I actually went to see a 46ft by 13ft barge that had a six cylinder cummins in. The modern propensity to over engine boats. This engine does look as if it had been well maintained. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 15:41:32 GMT
I realise that Just checking you havent gone mental. You know there is a narrow boat with a six pot Gardener in it ? I went mental years ago  I know there is a narrow boat with a 5 pot Gardner (enterprise) and I think there are one or two 6 pot listers but not seen a 6 pot Gardner in a narrow boat myself. Its a bit of a beast the Kelvin but in a heavy deep boat it might be okay hence my (tongue in cheek) suggestion of a double decker thing. Trouble is I expect anyone who is venture down that route would have too much money and would just put a new unit in anyway. |
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Post by bargemast on Dec 14, 2016 16:41:12 GMT
Just checking you havent gone mental. You know there is a narrow boat with a six pot Gardener in it ? I went mental years ago I know there is a narrow boat with a 5 pot Gardner (enterprise) and I think there are one or two 6 pot listers but not seen a 6 pot Gardner in a narrow boat myself. Its a bit of a beast the Kelvin but in a heavy deep boat it might be okay hence my (tongue in cheek) suggestion of a double decker thing. Trouble is I expect anyone who is venture down that route would have too much money and would just put a new unit in anyway. The narrowboat with the 5 pot Gardner may have belonged to an English friend of mine who sadly past away in 2010. he lived and worked in France since 1980 when he came over to look after the technical side of a hire boat base on the Canal du Nivernais, where all the boats in the fleet were new build Hancock & Lane boats of different sizes of which he had participated in the building of them.
I was going to write some more about him, but then discovered an article about him that may be interesting to read, and some of you may even remember him from his time in the UK. kacanaltimes.blogspot.fr/2013/01/0-0-1-890-5074-watermarx-42-11-5953-14.html
Peter.
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Post by bargemast on Dec 14, 2016 16:46:17 GMT
This is a very beautiful engine, I don't know for what sort of money they'll let it go, but it must be worth quite a bit more than the starting price.
If I would still have a barge in which this engine could have been fitted, I wouldn't hesitate to rush over and buy.
But as I haven't got anything big enough to accomodate this engine (and forgetting I haven't got the money anyway) it's not going to be mine.
Peter.
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Post by kris on Dec 14, 2016 17:54:42 GMT
I would have thought its worth not much more than £1500, because the very small number of people who would have a boat big enough.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 18:07:24 GMT
I could see it going for scrap unless the right buyer turns up.
I suppose if someone gets it dirt cheap they might put it in a shed or something.
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Post by kris on Dec 14, 2016 18:22:23 GMT
I wouldn't have thought it will go for scrap, it's too good. You just throw a tarp over it and advertise it again in spring.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 18:44:58 GMT
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