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Post by kris on Nov 30, 2016 8:25:37 GMT
If Crt is a private Company(albeit with some charitable aims) then surely the transfer of assets from BW to Crt was privatisation? Assets owned by the nation are now owned by a private company, or am I wrong?
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 30, 2016 8:29:31 GMT
You're wrong, they're a quango not a private company. With a private company the assets are owned by individual people or shareholders, this isn't the case with CRT.
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Post by kris on Nov 30, 2016 8:33:37 GMT
What about BWML? By the way Nick I don't think your right about it being a quango.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Nov 30, 2016 8:35:53 GMT
If anyone is interesting a quango is a quasi autonomous non government organisation. This means that it acts as a private company, day to day, but isn't really. The clue is in the word 'quasi'.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Nov 30, 2016 8:38:35 GMT
What about BWML? By the way Nick I don't think your right about it being a quango. My understanding is that it was set up by government charter as a company with charitable status. Rather than having shareholders it has trustees, appointed by the government. This makes it a quango, I think.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 30, 2016 8:47:25 GMT
What about BWML? By the way Nick I don't think your right about it being a quango. I'm not sure about BWML. Presumably they aim to make a profit and when they do, where does it go? Who owns the assets?
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Post by kris on Nov 30, 2016 8:50:32 GMT
I just find it an interesting question, as there seems to be very little protection for the assets. The property dept seem to be able to decide to sell anything with out any oversight.
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Post by kris on Nov 30, 2016 8:52:33 GMT
To me it seems like privatisation in everything but name.
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Post by Gone on Nov 30, 2016 8:54:56 GMT
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 30, 2016 8:57:31 GMT
I just find it an interesting question, as there seems to be very little protection for the assets. The property dept seem to be able to decide to sell anything with out any oversight. Our government can decide to sell stuff without any oversight e.g.Gordon Brown selling off our gold at rock bottom price, but that doesn't make the government a private company.
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Post by kris on Nov 30, 2016 9:15:32 GMT
I just find it an interesting question, as there seems to be very little protection for the assets. The property dept seem to be able to decide to sell anything with out any oversight. Our government can decide to sell stuff without any oversight e.g.Gordon Brown selling off our gold at rock bottom price, but that doesn't make the government a private company. neither does it make them a quango.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 30, 2016 9:34:56 GMT
Our government can decide to sell stuff without any oversight e.g.Gordon Brown selling off our gold at rock bottom price, but that doesn't make the government a private company. neither does it make them a quango. No it makes them a government! NG in quango being non-government! The point being that your assertion that the ability to sell stuff without oversight means CRT are a private company, is incorrect. Anyway there is oversight in the form of the trustees.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 9:53:33 GMT
The concepts of ownership and money were invented as tools to gain and hold on to control without the need for physical confrontation. It allowed 'soft' intelligent people to dictate what the rest of us do, In some respects this is a good thing as it gives us all a sense of security. Unfortunately this system has also been used by invididuals throughout the ages to gain more control than they would otherwise have gained in the animal kingdom.
So today we try to mange this problem with 'democracy' by having a government who have been elected in by the population. The government are supposed to serve the best interests of the general populous. What has actually happened is that we have a government who are trying to sell us the idea that private companies (individuals) are in the best position to serve our interests. Not only that, these individuals have a massive influence on our politicians. Even some local councillors have fingers in corporate pies. It's through what I call stealth dictatorship.
So yes, it is wrong if you see something, which was renovated by lots of hard working, enthusiastic volunteers in their spare time, get sold off to greedy individuals.
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Post by kris on Nov 30, 2016 9:53:39 GMT
CBA
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 10:57:24 GMT
I was actually agreeing with you Kris. It's a concern.
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