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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 15:02:49 GMT
My first one! I thank you Sir. Now, Now, don't get too excited. To receive a "twat" from Kris is only a minor accolade ......... a premier grade "twat" can only be awarded by the Twatmaster himself There is a saying 'Don't argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience' I should have added a smiley to my post to Kris, bet c'est la vie
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Post by thebfg on Dec 3, 2016 15:31:33 GMT
Camalot As in the lottery
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 15:40:15 GMT
Camalot As in the lottery The Government?
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Post by thebfg on Dec 3, 2016 15:56:18 GMT
Camalot As in the lottery The Government? They are the camelot group the bedded for the lottery. They aren't a part of the government but I don't think they are a charity though and probably do not have the same kind of relegatory powers being thought off.
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Post by thebfg on Dec 3, 2016 16:04:36 GMT
Camalot As in the lottery The Government? They are the camelot group the bidded for the lottery. They aren't a part of the government but I don't think they are a charity though and probably do not have the same kind of relegatory powers being thought off.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 16:16:01 GMT
I know who Camelot are I didn't mean to quote the previous post I was suggesting (tongue in cheek) that the government was a similar organisation to CRT.
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Post by thebfg on Dec 3, 2016 16:18:19 GMT
Since my duff answer I've been thinking hard as the legal/regulatory part was hard.
But I may of only gone and done it, the RSPCA
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Post by thebfg on Dec 3, 2016 16:19:46 GMT
I know who Camelot are I didn't mean to quote the previous post I was suggesting (tongue in cheek) that the government was a similar organisation to CRT. That makes sense now. They probably are but we are forced to make donations.
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Post by twbm2 on Dec 4, 2016 19:32:48 GMT
RSPCA certainly take out prosecutions, but don't have enforcement powers over 'clients' or 'customers' so not exactly the same.
Posted before I'd read BFG's contribution. NSPCC too maybe?
.. and another edit .. Housing Associations may be the best : they may well have to evict folk for none payment of rent etc., and some stretches of canal look like linear housing estates....
(Walks off whistling, hands in pockets).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 19:45:16 GMT
I think I was more thinking about organisations like Natural England but even they do not quite fit. Thanks for the other suggestions though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 20:03:35 GMT
Camalot As in the lottery You called?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 20:07:10 GMT
Camalot As in the lottery You called? You are getting close to me calling some friends in Tintagel -be careful!
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Post by Allan on Dec 4, 2016 21:20:30 GMT
I'm looking for suggestions on organisations that I can compare CRT to. Ideally they should have a Charitable side plus a Commercial side plus a Legal/Regularity side. All suggestions welcome, don't worry if you are not sure - suggest it. I can work out whether the suggestion is appropriate or not and I don't bite. Fairly obviously British Waterways is (or rather was) the nearest comparable organisation. Take away Scottish Canals and it is almost an exact fit regarding two out of your three parameters and a fairly reasonable fit regarding the third.. I would suggest that a good starting point would be the differences between these two organisations regarding objectives and operation. Reading should be the 2008 KPMG report which sets out the options for BW and the 2009 'Setting a New Course' report by by Think Consulting, Bates Wells and Braithwaite and Compass Partnership. These reports provide the rationale for the move to the third sector. Edited to add - I think you also need to consider BW's 'vision' against that of 'CaRT'.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2016 21:59:19 GMT
Fairly obviously British Waterways is (or rather was) the nearest comparable organisation. ...Snip... Thanks Allan. I was more looking for a current organisation that I could compare CRT with, especially with regard to 'modern day' Governance.
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Post by thebfg on Dec 4, 2016 22:33:45 GMT
RSPCA certainly take out prosecutions, but don't have enforcement powers over 'clients' or 'customers' so not exactly the same. Posted before I'd read BFG's contribution. NSPCC too maybe? .. and another edit .. Housing Associations may be the best : they may well have to evict folk for none payment of rent etc., and some stretches of canal look like linear housing estates.... (Walks off whistling, hands in pockets). Without sounding whiney, housing associations have no special powers either. They have to go through the courts like any other landlord. Our flat is owned by a charity though. But I think there's something fishy about why as the charity is owned by the same people who still manage it.
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