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Post by tadworth on Apr 25, 2016 20:30:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 20:34:36 GMT
They have been stating this for a couple of years. They will slowly bring in charges in the next couple of years I think. Given the overstaffing they have, I suppose they need the extra money for wages.
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Post by peterboat on Apr 25, 2016 20:55:35 GMT
I would like some facilities on these facilities ha
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Post by tadworth on Apr 25, 2016 23:01:04 GMT
The next question is does overstaying ,and paying the charge count as an "unauthorised overstay" on ones sightings record ?
If it does then that would clearly prove the charge is a fine, and illegal.
There is also the question of the amount, £25 per day is not even close to a fair charge at the going rate of CRT long term moorings, or overnight moorings on the Thames.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 9:48:41 GMT
The next question is does overstaying ,and paying the charge count as an "unauthorised overstay" on ones sightings record ? If it does then that would clearly prove the charge is a fine, and illegal. That's a very good point actually, and one I have not heard reference to before.
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Post by tadworth on Apr 26, 2016 12:29:42 GMT
In the FOI they have claimed the charge is for administering the charge, which makes my brain hurt thinking about it.
What can you do with an organisation that is based on mentally Ill statements like that ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 16:54:25 GMT
In the FOI they have claimed the charge is for administering the charge, which makes my brain hurt thinking about it. What can you do with an organisation that is based on mentally Ill statements like that ? Been following you on other channel unfortunately can't post in your support as I am banned, but in my opinion you are spot on with your points raised and I cringe at the usual apologists trying the usual tactics to denigrate your argument
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Post by tadworth on Apr 26, 2016 21:09:53 GMT
I'm sure some of these cwdf members are actually working for CRT, or have never been out of their marina ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 5:29:09 GMT
I'm sure some of these cwdf members are actually working for CRT, or have never been out of their marina ? They have some very strange opinions and I have to say in all honesty in 35 years as a continuous cruiser I can't remember meeting anyone on the cut with similar views. Years back I was working on a boat in Milton Keynes Marina ,I had taken the mooring to exploit the electrical supply basically.Anyway there was a bloke in there who had bankrupted his small business and was in hiding from his creditors,things were that bad he had the mobile phone in someone else's name but he had purchased a Hudson which was in his partners name which he was always quick to stress to everyone. With the Hudson of course came the IWA membership sticker which he displayed in the window and I remember how he would call the people ouside the entrance to the Marina who moored on the towpath vermin.It was the familiar something for nothing argument that you soon tire of hearing and he was always making it especially when he was with other marina dwellers so I tend to agree with what you say,in my experience thats where those sorts of views are most prevalent.
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Post by Delta9 on Apr 27, 2016 7:39:03 GMT
Graham Davis is back and he's being a bellend again. Someone needs to confiscate his exclamation mark key and shove it up his stupid arse.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 8:46:02 GMT
The problem with Mike the prick, and Graham rabies, is there's no sign stating "mind the gap" between their brain and mouth.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 27, 2016 8:57:34 GMT
If you own a business and you make it go bankrupt, it looks to me that you have got plenty of (other peoples') something for a lot of (your) nothings.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 13:13:41 GMT
Let's be a bit sensible with this vm business. Basically, it's a mooring spot, usually a busy one, and will be busy no matter what restrictions you put on it. There is also the fact that you cannot stay at that spot for more than 14 days (odd that innit). These vm's are not facilities, or services. That is complete and utter bullshit, made up to facilitate a reason for making them short stay and setting a price to overstay. A ring, or bollard is not a facility or a service, it's a Fuckin mooring aid. Although I agree with the need to share popular spots, I also accept the fact that sometimes I may not be able to moor there, simply because someone got there before me.
This whole crappy scenario is just iwa, Crt and bw before that looking to develop problems to solve. The fact that CRT state they will ensure depth at these moorings, rather than all moorings, states quite clearly where they are heading. They only want you mooring where they let you. I wonder why they wish to do that?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 13:37:32 GMT
Let's be a bit sensible with this vm business. Basically, it's a mooring spot, usually a busy one, and will be busy no matter what restrictions you put on it. There is also the fact that you cannot stay at that spot for more than 14 days (odd that innit). These vm's are not facilities, or services. That is complete and utter bullshit, made up to facilitate a reason for making them short stay and setting a price to overstay. A ring, or bollard is not a facility or a service, it's a Fuckin mooring aid. Although I agree with the need to share popular spots, I also accept the fact that sometimes I may not be able to moor there, simply because someone got there before me. This whole crappy scenario is just iwa, Crt and bw before that looking to develop problems to solve. The fact that CRT state they will ensure depth at these moorings, rather than all moorings, states quite clearly where they are heading. They only want you mooring where they let you. I wonder why they wish to do that? I remember this dredging issue on the other channel when I raised the fact it wasn't being done and Alan "lock the thread" Fincher gave me an impromptu history lesson.He pointed out that historically it was never done as working boats would seldom moor up unless at a wharf and thus there was no need. I told him the fact remained that I could moor in places on the GU South in the past where today lack of dredging makes it impossible.This is a fact.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 13:44:43 GMT
Josher washer often speaks before thinking things through. Its one of the reasons Crt tucked him into a little group in the corner so as to micro manage him.
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