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Feb 23, 2017 7:59:47 GMT
Post by naughtyfox on Feb 23, 2017 7:59:47 GMT
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Feb 23, 2017 14:24:16 GMT
Post by IainS on Feb 23, 2017 14:24:16 GMT
Why can't you get someone to make 'controls' for your old stove? We have a little VALOR 'Willow' stove which came with the boat, quite happy with it, although the baffle is baffling - I read about it but it's impractical to use, so all goes straight up to warm the crows' nests. For anyone near Halifax there's a stove shop 5 minutes' walk from the station. The new boat's got one of these, and we find it a bit temperamental. Once it's going, it's fine, but it lacks the blast effect you get with a Squirrel when the bottom door is open. When you say "baffle", do you mean the throat plate? If so, we'll try removing it, to see if it makes any difference.
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Feb 23, 2017 14:42:57 GMT
Post by mischief on Feb 23, 2017 14:42:57 GMT
Thanks for the input everyone. I would love to get our old stove working perfectly as it is less hassle that way but I tired of either having a lovely looking fire, complete with flames, and no heat output (I suspect I am uniquely talented to be able to do that) or unable to sleep in 38 degrees! Even with everything closed down the temperature just keeps on going up!
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Feb 23, 2017 14:46:01 GMT
Post by mischief on Feb 23, 2017 14:46:01 GMT
Sorry I can't help on the actual stove front but if you ARE in mind for a budget replacement, I can heartily recommend one of these. www.gr8fires.co.uk/gbs-mariner-4-kw-multi-fuel-stoveIt's made by arada and for it's size, I STILL can't believe how well it does. I can call in at the boat about 3pm... light it (using mainly wood to get some quick heat in) and about an hour later half fill it with slow burning opoids. I let them get under way and in about 15 mins close the bottom vent to about 20% and top to maybe 25% and leave it to it. When I get back to the boat - usually about 23 hours later everything has burned away nicely but there are still a few red hot embers which with careful use, can be coaxed back into life with some kindling. When I'm ON the boat though, I make it up about 9/10 pm doing the same and when I get up about 6, it's still very hot, the boat nice and warm and it will rapidly leap back into life when I open the vents fully and chuck on a log. I can't vouch vouch for how long it will last but it "feels" like good quality for the money. Mark. I like that one, thanks
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Feb 23, 2017 19:10:17 GMT
Post by naughtyfox on Feb 23, 2017 19:10:17 GMT
Why can't you get someone to make 'controls' for your old stove? We have a little VALOR 'Willow' stove which came with the boat, quite happy with it, although the baffle is baffling - I read about it but it's impractical to use, so all goes straight up to warm the crows' nests. For anyone near Halifax there's a stove shop 5 minutes' walk from the station. The new boat's got one of these, and we find it a bit temperamental. Once it's going, it's fine, but it lacks the blast effect you get with a Squirrel when the bottom door is open. When you say "baffle", do you mean the throat plate? If so, we'll try removing it, to see if it makes any difference. I don't know what the 2 holes top of door are for and I can't remember if ours are open or closed. The 4 holes (operate by slider) do indeed make a difference - I don't think I've ever closed them more than 3/4, at least 1/4 open to make sure some air is going in & up. Throat plate or baffle - isn't it the same? Ours just lies vertically down at the back - the instructions say you can rest it on the side insulators but it doesn't sit securely, I don't know if it would help, so am inclined to leave it as it is. It works well, and we are happy with it. We don't need a 'roar' as our boat is only a 40-foot tiddler. Hottest it ever got 2 occasions: 1. Xmas 2015. We turned up to the boat expecting it to be ice cold but the owner of the house where we were parked had been shoving his own dry wood into the stove since lunchtime (and this was evening) - it was like a sauna inside! 2. That Xmas trip being desperate for firewood, I bought one of those firelogs, made of what, compressed paraffin?? Bloody Hell, talk about a furnace, we couldn't pull it out as it just crumbled, we had put the whole thing in, and Upper Heyford was enveloped in the white smoke from our chimney. I like prodding wood and coal in our stove with the poker, staring into the flames and thinking just how nice it would be to shove that poker up Simo Kukko's arse! (see thread about insurance claims)
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Feb 25, 2017 13:03:28 GMT
Post by smileypete on Feb 25, 2017 13:03:28 GMT
Sounds like it needs fettling. Maybe sell it as is 'works OK but needs fettling' and put the money towards a new stove, some good deals can be had in the summertime. 'Controls are non existent any more' sounds like something is seriously amiss, also the fire rope seals may be poor/missing and even small cracks between the castings due to rust or expansion stresses, and so on, not everyone wants to get into that. When fitting the new stove maybe post on here and CWDF for some tips. Used to have a torgem that would stay in for 24 hours on phurnacite, even 36 once, so a lot can be possible but it does take some time and trouble. (These days I don't mind the cold so much (built in insulation ) and have a modified but slightly iffy fan heater that I run off the 'umbilical')
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Post by leo326 on Apr 2, 2017 22:52:33 GMT
I may be far off but the stove looks like an aarrow stove with the bottom rope in the wrong place, at which point it it will indeed not burn for long. There is a recent thread about roping a becton bunny 5 (made by aarrow) in boat building and maintenance which shows the rope position as it should be. If this is the case then a bit of the right rope and some rope glue will fix it. A better picture of the ash pan door inner would probably confirm it either way but first look at the becton bunny thread and see how close it matches yours.
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Apr 3, 2017 7:13:13 GMT
Post by mischief on Apr 3, 2017 7:13:13 GMT
I may be far off but the stove looks like an aarrow stove with the bottom rope in the wrong place, at which point it it will indeed not burn for long. There is a recent thread about roping a becton bunny 5 (made by aarrow) in boat building and maintenance which shows the rope position as it should be. If this is the case then a bit of the right rope and some rope glue will fix it. A better picture of the ash pan door inner would probably confirm it either way but first look at the becton bunny thread and see how close it matches yours. Thanks Leo, I will have a good play over the summer to see if I can sort the old stove out. I think people are right about the rope so will replace that, after finding out where it should go......... I appreciate all the advice from everyone - this is a great forum
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Apr 3, 2017 11:53:06 GMT
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Post by Jim on Apr 3, 2017 11:53:06 GMT
What controls to use.... Coal needs air from underneath, so close the top holes. Wood is best top fed, so use the top holes, close the bottom, close the grate if it's a riddle grate that will shut. Let a bed of ash build up. Top holes sometimes feed the fire with air via a preheat chamber and air wash to keep the glass clean. My stove at home, hunter hawk 4,also has a rear air feed, pre set, to help with efficiency. A butterfly plate in the flue should be left fully open for coal. It should be made so that it never shuts completely. They are v effective when burning wood.
Oh, and get an ecofan!
I like the look of the gr8 fire, good price, but am tempted to get a boatman.
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Apr 3, 2017 17:16:09 GMT
Post by quaysider on Apr 3, 2017 17:16:09 GMT
What controls to use.... Coal needs air from underneath, so close the top holes. Wood is best top fed, so use the top holes, close the bottom, close the grate if it's a riddle grate that will shut. Let a bed of ash build up. Top holes sometimes feed the fire with air via a preheat chamber and air wash to keep the glass clean. My stove at home, hunter hawk 4,also has a rear air feed, pre set, to help with efficiency. A butterfly plate in the flue should be left fully open for coal. It should be made so that it never shuts completely. They are v effective when burning wood. Oh, and get an ecofan! I like the look of the gr8 fire, good price, but am tempted to get a boatman. I'm STILL very much in love with it... I ditched logs all together now and having just found a supplier of slow burning opoid thingys in Barnsley at £6.50 a bag will be stocking up over the summer. AS for my budget ecofan - it's fine now I've added some weight to it - it kept leaping off!
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Apr 3, 2017 17:48:56 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 17:48:56 GMT
Eco fans do have suicidal tendencies. We take ours off the stove when we cruise. We have two pewter tankards (tot measures) with 10x£1 coins in each, as weights to hold it down (the speed of passing boats can dislodge it). The pound coins are handy for bus fares on our travels too Rog
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Apr 4, 2017 6:18:40 GMT
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Post by Jim on Apr 4, 2017 6:18:40 GMT
Eco fans do have suicidal tendencies. We take ours off the stove when we cruise. We have two pewter tankards (tot measures) with 10x£1 coins in each, as weights to hold it down (the speed of passing boats can dislodge it). The pound coins are handy for bus fares on our travels too Rog You'd best spend them and fill up with some new ones.
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Post by mischief on Apr 4, 2017 6:28:00 GMT
I may be far off but the stove looks like an aarrow stove with the bottom rope in the wrong place, at which point it it will indeed not burn for long. There is a recent thread about roping a becton bunny 5 (made by aarrow) in boat building and maintenance which shows the rope position as it should be. If this is the case then a bit of the right rope and some rope glue will fix it. A better picture of the ash pan door inner would probably confirm it either way but first look at the becton bunny thread and see how close it matches yours. yayyy, the stove has now been identified thank you and the rope isn't so much in the wrong place on the ash door as it isn't there at all. It hasn't been since we bought the boat so we thought nothing of it. It is going to be added and we will see if that sorts the problem out. No doubt we are of course now going to have a very long, dry, hot spell so that we can't test it for which I humbly apologise....... Thank you so much!
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Oct 25, 2017 7:28:04 GMT
Post by mischief on Oct 25, 2017 7:28:04 GMT
Well we installed our boatman stove yesterday (when I say we I mean my husband whilst I was at work) and it is awesome. We woke up to a toasty warm boat this morning and the fire was still in, glowing coals and all. I am very very happy with this stove. Thanks for all the help and advice everyone
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Oct 25, 2017 7:48:18 GMT
Post by quaysider on Oct 25, 2017 7:48:18 GMT
ah - the 'royal' we.... I bet you have Pink and blue jobs too? - we have 'light blue' and 'dark blue' ones - AS you might guess, the dark blue involve pumpouts/cassette emptying (we have both). Great news on the stove front though ... I'm still loving ours and IF I ever find a way to stop the boat filling with dust, it'll be the icing on the cake!
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