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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 30, 2016 19:13:07 GMT
The licenses are very similar - but the serial number will reveal you as a self-declared CC-er, who agrees to abide by whatever rules are applied by the owners of the pitch. Maybe we should look at the definition of CC-ers! There is no such thing as a Continuous Cruiser. You buy a licence for the use of the canals (and a few other waterway bits). That's it. If you want to park your boat somewhere permanently then you pay for that parking spot. That's it.
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Post by smileypete on Apr 30, 2016 21:33:41 GMT
Not surprising, most people like have too much time on their hands. While the poor sods trying to bring up their kids on a boat are out there toiling in the real world! OK so you're happy for the council to turn a blind eye to your liveaboard mooring, but not for CRT turn a blind eye to people mooring where they can take their kids to school - in case it impinges on your hobby in future, right? Very caring of you... Listened to the programme and it allowed both sides to air their views OK, but then got a bit muddled up with the issue of VM overstayers. Well the council have to house people but CRT is a navigation authority so no they have an obligation to see that boaters obey the the 95 act move every 14 days etc and satisfy the trust etc Here is a suggestion. CRT stop taking subsidies from taxpayers, which gets partly wasted on legal fees and their power tripping schemes. This money is used to rehouse boating families made homeless by CRT or help them comply with the endless goalpost moving. The 'floating nimbys' can finally stop complaining about said families and complain instead at their now tripled licence fees! Win-win-win???
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Post by smileypete on Apr 30, 2016 21:45:39 GMT
Unlicenced hippy work-shy foul-mouthed gits who strew their junk all over the towpath who like to boast they pay no taxes, down at the pub, need not look to me for sympathy. Maybe someone could explain to me why CRT don't concentrate 100% on these cases and give a bit more latitude to the more deserving ones? Perhaps they prefer soft targets like the latter while dealing with the former involves too much actual hard work? Personally, I hate being negative, but with CRT it's like shooting fish in a barrel. Doesn't bring out the best in me. It occurred to me that 'the other forum' is a bit like CRT in microcosm, to the newbies it seems fine, the regulars notice that some things are wrong, and a few unfortunates see a side that few are unlucky enough to see.
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Post by emma on May 1, 2016 7:24:31 GMT
I think the 20 mile guidance could probably be interpreted as suitable relaxation existing already. This is where I have sympathy with johnv and his summing up of the NBTA,their objectives,key demands and their relevance to other boaters.I think a proper inclusive agenda should be formed but I am happy for the NBTA to advance it as it seems to me they are at least proactive. I would love a few comments even if to put me right if I have it wrongly.
Whether rightly or wrongly, a CC-er is supposed to be on a continuous cruise around the inland waterways. It is completely contrary to the definition of CC to do it whilst your kids are at school. It simply is not for those sort of boaters. CC-ing is for those that don't want a home mooring because they don't WANT to remain in the same place all the time! "Those are my opinions. If you don't like them, I do have others!" maybe your right. Shame then there's no law that defines a Continuous Cruiser. or maybe you could point me to the waterways law that says you can't take your kids to school and own a boat. same old, same old crap. They don't do what I do do they should fuck off.
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Post by loafer on May 1, 2016 9:21:49 GMT
Whether rightly or wrongly, a CC-er is supposed to be on a continuous cruise around the inland waterways. It is completely contrary to the definition of CC to do it whilst your kids are at school. It simply is not for those sort of boaters. CC-ing is for those that don't want a home mooring because they don't WANT to remain in the same place all the time! "Those are my opinions. If you don't like them, I do have others!" maybe your right. Shame then there's no law that defines a Continuous Cruiser. or maybe you could point me to the waterways law that says you can't take your kids to school and own a boat. same old, same old crap. They don't do what I do do they should fuck off. There are no such laws. Anyone can own a boat, insure it, BSS it and get a licence. But you can't stay in one place for more than 14 days unless you have a mooring. I put it to you that kids in a local school means you need a either a mooring, or endless arse with CRT.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 9:30:41 GMT
There are no such laws. Anyone can own a boat, insure it, BSS it and get a licence. Not quite true. If your called onionbargee......
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Post by emma on May 1, 2016 9:40:19 GMT
maybe your right. Shame then there's no law that defines a Continuous Cruiser. or maybe you could point me to the waterways law that says you can't take your kids to school and own a boat. same old, same old crap. They don't do what I do do they should fuck off. There are no such laws. Anyone can own a boat, insure it, BSS it and get a licence. But you can't stay in one place for more than 14 days unless you have a mooring. I put it to you that kids in a local school means you need a either a mooring, or endless arse with CRT. Again, the usual crap. you've heard from a few boaters who are getting stick from CRT, what about the rest? CRT pick on people, if you've not grasped that then you're not paying attention. The reasons are obscure but that's the reality.
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Post by loafer on May 1, 2016 10:20:03 GMT
There are no such laws. Anyone can own a boat, insure it, BSS it and get a licence. But you can't stay in one place for more than 14 days unless you have a mooring. I put it to you that kids in a local school means you need a either a mooring, or endless arse with CRT. Again, the usual crap. you've heard from a few boaters who are getting stick from CRT, what about the rest? CRT pick on people, if you've not grasped that then you're not paying attention. The reasons are obscure but that's the reality. Sure. As you say, 'all the usual crap'!
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Post by peterboat on May 1, 2016 13:39:06 GMT
Whether rightly or wrongly, a CC-er is supposed to be on a continuous cruise around the inland waterways. It is completely contrary to the definition of CC to do it whilst your kids are at school. It simply is not for those sort of boaters. CC-ing is for those that don't want a home mooring because they don't WANT to remain in the same place all the time! "Those are my opinions. If you don't like them, I do have others!" maybe your right. Shame then there's no law that defines a Continuous Cruiser. or maybe you could point me to the waterways law that says you can't take your kids to school and own a boat. same old, same old crap. They don't do what I do do they should fuck off. I think its difficult to CC and have kids at school but not impossible. The thing is CRT does have the power under the act to make people move every 14 days in an onward navigation and also a distance to satisfy the board! The trouble is it is their canal game and they have to set some rules otherwise the canals would be full of CMers, and it would be spoilt for the 98% that want to cruise.
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