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Post by loafer on May 5, 2016 20:02:11 GMT
Go on then, how many cmers have you seen in the last month? Come on Loafer its a fair question because I see none.How many people do you see refusing to move their boat at all. Bear in mind that you would have to overstay to witness them do the same thing. There is one that I pass twice a year, just north of Norbury Junction, that isn't even licensed. Decency prevents me from naming the boat, but it is well-known in the area.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 20:14:12 GMT
Come on Loafer its a fair question because I see none.How many people do you see refusing to move their boat at all. Bear in mind that you would have to overstay to witness them do the same thing. There is one that I pass twice a year, just north of Norbury Junction, that isn't even licensed. Decency prevents me from naming the boat, but it is well-known in the area. Just because it has no license in the window doesn't mean its unlicensed
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Post by loafer on May 5, 2016 20:35:36 GMT
There is one that I pass twice a year, just north of Norbury Junction, that isn't even licensed. Decency prevents me from naming the boat, but it is well-known in the area. Just because it has no license in the window doesn't mean its unlicensed The locals think differently. Anyway, the point was that it was a CM-er who I see regularly, without CM-ing myself!
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 20:58:31 GMT
Just because it has no license in the window doesn't mean its unlicensed The locals think differently. Anyway, the point was that it was a CM-er who I see regularly, without CM-ing myself! Well you reckon one in the last month,can I ask and its not a point scoring exercise because I like yourself move every 14 days and sometimes sooner,where are these continuous moorers? how do you perceive there to be a problem?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 21:04:14 GMT
I happily comply with CRT guidelines of 20 miles,probably exceed it quite comfortably. I cruise the same length one way then another,not continuous cruising in its strictest sense. I know most of the boats on that stretch and I genuinely never see a continuously moored boat,maybe some that I could agree don't move far enough but none continuously moored.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 21:17:56 GMT
Come on Loafer its a fair question because I see none.How many people do you see refusing to move their boat at all. Bear in mind that you would have to overstay to witness them do the same thing. There is one that I pass twice a year, just north of Norbury Junction, that isn't even licensed. Decency prevents me from naming the boat, but it is well-known in the area. The way I see it loafer, is we are getting a raw deal. That one and a half million quid a year was me being a bit conservative. It's substantially more, and I suggest they spend that amount of money for a reason. To "gently" and over time change the use of the canals to "leisure only". That bothers me, because the canal will lose its character, it's vibrancy and it's soul. It will become a theme park. I would rather see lengthsemen employed. They would replace the EO's, and the number checkers, and also police their area, with dogshit, cyclists, graffiti etc. Being responsible for their stretch. Why do CRT really prefer hiring EO's?
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Post by loafer on May 5, 2016 21:27:05 GMT
The locals think differently. Anyway, the point was that it was a CM-er who I see regularly, without CM-ing myself! Well you reckon one in the last month,can I ask and its not a point scoring exercise because I like yourself move every 14 days and sometimes sooner,where are these continuous moorers? how do you perceive there to be a problem? CDS, please note that above, somewhere, I did intimate that it was ' dumpsters' more than 'CMers' that annoy me. I can add another CM-er who is a friend, and we never mention it. Sadly I cannot say who he is, but he's somewhere near Wolsely Bridge on the S&W. These people DO exist, and one case is vociferously proud of it, and thinks that ALL those, in ANY authority, are 'cunts'. Quite funny when I'm having a pint with him, but I can't condone his mooring behaviour.
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Post by tadworth on May 6, 2016 16:28:41 GMT
Surely some of the blame for a boat moored for years in one place with no licence, if such a thing exists, is on the local CRT enforcement, they have more than enough powers to deal with it, so why haven't they ? Ultimately, as you pass by enjoying our boating, that boat hasn't affected you at all, and it sitting there has cost no one anything, CRT haven't bought the canals, and need to get their money back, they were given them to manage, an individual boats impact on the infrastructure, especially if it doesn't ever move is incalculably tiny, so just pass by and leave CRT to worry about it. There are only a few, and its not a big problem.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 16:49:50 GMT
Surely some of the blame for a boat moored for years in one place with no licence, if such a thing exists, is on the local CRT enforcement, they have more than enough powers to deal with it, so why haven't they ? Ultimately, as you pass by enjoying our boating, that boat hasn't affected you at all, and it sitting there has cost no one anything, CRT haven't bought the canals, and need to get their money back, they were given them to manage, an individual boats impact on the infrastructure, especially if it doesn't ever move is incalculably tiny, so just pass by and leave CRT to worry about it. There are only a few, and its not a big problem. I was just thinking that today,I am in the middle of the country been there two weeks and so have to move and there is noone here.Would love to just sit an extra week to enjoy the birds in the hedgerow and the lambs in the fields,just seems like utter madness sometimes.Its no different for a boat with a home mooring either by the way,they have to move every 14 days also.We hear enough from people with a mooring about continuous moorers,its funny how they rolled over and just accepted the 14 day limit all those CRT apologists
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Post by loafer on May 6, 2016 17:21:50 GMT
Surely some of the blame for a boat moored for years in one place with no licence, if such a thing exists, is on the local CRT enforcement, they have more than enough powers to deal with it, so why haven't they ? Ultimately, as you pass by enjoying our boating, that boat hasn't affected you at all, and it sitting there has cost no one anything, CRT haven't bought the canals, and need to get their money back, they were given them to manage, an individual boats impact on the infrastructure, especially if it doesn't ever move is incalculably tiny, so just pass by and leave CRT to worry about it. There are only a few, and its not a big problem. It does exist, but I am at a loss to explain why. I believe the license in his window is a 2011 one! Anyway, I am not 'worried' about it, nor does it affect me at all, but it grits my shit that some people don't seem to have to pay nearly a grand a year for the privilege, like I have to. It is true that enforcement is a little slack up there, but on the increase I'm told.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 20:02:11 GMT
Just chipping in here, chaps. I would suggest CRT is making a lot of sub-contractors very happy, rather than having work done by their own employees. Sub-contractors don't do the work for their love of the waterways but for their love of the folding stuff. I was thinking today - why do people live in boats? It's like parking a caravan on a lane of a motorway and thinking - I know, I'll live here. It's not 'natural'. Along with many others, you cannot see anything outside of your little box. You fail to see that some don't like your particular box. Some of us like to look outside of our boxes to see what other life experiences can be had. That's natural. Your just a stereotype, and probably like it that way.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 20:24:39 GMT
I am looking outside my box - but can you explain why exactly people choose to live in canal boats? Canals came and went - they lost their purpose. Then leisure boaters came along. Do you think it's normal to want to live on a boat on a redundant then restored freight corridor? Just asking. Stereotypical of what?!! I ain't getting into a discussion with you over it. Get back in your bloody box!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 20:26:57 GMT
I am looking outside my box - but can you explain why exactly people choose to live in canal boats? Canals came and went - they lost their purpose. Then leisure boaters came along. Do you think it's normal to want to live on a boat on a redundant then restored freight corridor? Just asking. Stereotypical of what?!! Not many people like to live on a narrow boat, but those who do, do it out of choice because they like it. Those who choose a brainwashed lifestyle try to justify their bad choice by ridiculing those who see through the bullshit.
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Post by loafer on May 6, 2016 20:37:56 GMT
I am looking outside my box - but can you explain why exactly people choose to live in canal boats? Canals came and went - they lost their purpose. Then leisure boaters came along. Do you think it's normal to want to live on a boat on a redundant then restored freight corridor? Just asking. Stereotypical of what?!! I'm living on one because of the peace and quiet in retirement, which it generally is. In the winter, it is REALLY peaceful. In the summer, a few boats go past every day. It's not at all like the M25! (Mind you, I have little knowledge of the southern canals.)
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 20:47:37 GMT
I am looking outside my box - but can you explain why exactly people choose to live in canal boats? Canals came and went - they lost their purpose. Then leisure boaters came along. Do you think it's normal to want to live on a boat on a redundant then restored freight corridor? Just asking. Stereotypical of what?!! Your Stereotypical of the sort of people found on social media. People that post pointless questions and opinions on any amount of topics they know nothing about, and sooner or later their limitations on the subjects they post about destroys their credibility.
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